Obama/Biden 311
259 Solid 
52 Leaning
McCain/Palin 142
127 Solid 
15 Leaning
Toss Up 85
85 Toss Up
I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.
Your forgetting Internals ppl. By Obama's HQ own admission McCain is within 2 pts of him in Penns. McCain will win Florida, NC, GA, and OH.
| halogamer1989 said: Your forgetting Internals ppl. By Obama's HQ own admission McCain is within 2 pts of him in Penns. McCain will win Florida, NC, GA, and OH. |
So you're saying that all the public polls are totally wrong and the internal polls are somehow right? That the double digit leads that Obama continues to hold in PA according to almost ALL non-internal polls are false? That's quite a statement.
Sam Yikin said:
So you're saying that all the public polls are totally wrong and the internal polls are somehow right? That the double digit leads that Obama continues to hold in PA according to almost ALL non-internal polls are false? That's quite a statement. |
No I'm not saying that. I'm saying that $$$ goes a long way to throw a sampling error in.... Check the news and see why Obama is on defense in PA which he is. It also helps that we are nearly tied when he outspends us like mad with sometimes illegal and foreign contributions I might add.
Pennsylvania is in double digits for Obama right now. RCP has it at +11 for Obama. If you really think the polls are that off, halogamer, then you are just deluding yourself. McCain can still win, but he isn't going to win Pennsylvania.
But at this point the odds are on Obama by about 8-1. McCain is catching up some in national polls, but the electoral map looks just plain awful for McCain.
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It doesn't help us either that Obama has outspent us over 51%.
halogamer1989 said:
No I'm not saying that. I'm saying that $$$ goes a long way to throw a sampling error in.... Check the news and see why Obama is on defense in PA which he is. It also helps that we are nearly tied when he outspends us like mad with sometimes illegal and foreign contributions I might add.
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He is on defense in PA because McCain is on offense. That is it. Obama is ahead by a very comfortable margin in PA according to every poll that I have seen, and that does not seem to be changing at that point.
By the way, halogamer1989, I like your new sig. I have to admit you have a point.
Barack Obama will be like Jimmy Carter: Carter was the first elected president after Nixon, and Obama will be the first elected president after Bush.
That's what you meant, right? 
[edit: I have to say, though, I don't think the comparison is very kind to Nixon. After all, he's only remembered for one major scandal, and AFAIK his presidency was otherwise very competent.]
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It doesn't help McCain that Obama collected $600,000,000 from millions of people, who are excited and want to vote for a "wealth spreader-arounder" as Bush would probably say.
I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.
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