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halogamer1989 said:
steven787 said:

He's like a rock. I changed my mind. I said, "elections aren't won, they're lost."

I was wrong.

“We will all need to sacrifice, and we will all need to pull our weight because now more than ever, we are all in this together.  What this crisis has taught us is that at the end of the day, there is no real separation between Main Street and Wall Street. There is only the road we’re traveling on as Americans, and we will rise or fall on that journey as one nation, as one people.”


Lenin said the same thing, Steve.  Also, look for sampling bias in MSM polling.

How quaint.  And I like how people have stopped calling it the liberal media and its now the ominous MSM.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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halogamer1989 said:
steven787 said:

He's like a rock. I changed my mind. I said, "elections aren't won, they're lost."

I was wrong.

“We will all need to sacrifice, and we will all need to pull our weight because now more than ever, we are all in this together.  What this crisis has taught us is that at the end of the day, there is no real separation between Main Street and Wall Street. There is only the road we’re traveling on as Americans, and we will rise or fall on that journey as one nation, as one people.”


Lenin said the same thing, Steve.  Also, look for sampling bias in MSM polling.

 

Of the two candidates, McCain is the populist repeating "Wall Street Greed".  His mistake is that most of us have money invested in Wall Street through our 401k or pentions.  We are also smart enough to know that it was banks, borrowers, and the government that got us into this mess. 

The Democrats, some Republicans AND George W. Bush in 2003 by loosening lending standards to unhealthy levels from the already low levels put in by Clinton and the 90's Republicans are one part.  McCain's previous calls for deregulation to the flip flopping, hasty, not too well thought out call for re-regulation and financial gimmicks that sound good to someone as out of touch and ignorant of economics as he is are another part.  Mostly, it is a normal fincial/economic cycle exacerbated by bad policy from many different places.

McCarthyism or Terrorism fear-monging isn't going to work on of the people who haven't decided who to vote for, it has and will continue to back fire.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

A friend showed me this...I just have to post it:



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

That's horrible.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

halogamer1989 said:  Lenin said the same thing, Steve.  Also, look for sampling bias in MSM polling.

I see you've changed your sig, but not your smear of choice.  Marxist, Leninist, Communist ... please stop it.  You're wrong, and you're not going to convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you otherwise.

P.S.  I can't easily find your former sig on Google image search.  Do you still have it?  Will you show me?  It's actually pretty clever, albeit in a way I despise, and I'd like to have a copy for myself if you are willing to oblige. 

[edit:  Never mind.  Google cache FTW!]



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akuma587 said:

A friend showed me this...I just have to post it:

 

I can't find it now, but my friend just showed me one with the same panels, but different words.  It went: "How is Iraq like youre retard baby?"  "Should've pulled out earlier."



Final-Fan said:
halogamer1989 said:  Lenin said the same thing, Steve.  Also, look for sampling bias in MSM polling.

I see you've changed your sig, but not your smear of choice.  Marxist, Leninist, Communist ... please stop it.  You're wrong, and you're not going to convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you otherwise.

P.S.  I can't easily find your former sig on Google image search.  Do you still have it?  Will you show me?  It's actually pretty clever, albeit in a way I despise, and I'd like to have a copy for myself if you are willing to oblige. 

[edit:  Never mind.  Google cache FTW!]

 

Never bother asking him questions.  Example of Halogamer behavior: He makes a baseless comment, if you react defensively he keeps going.  if you point out the flaw in his reasoning, then he realizes he is out of his league and then waits a little bit before making another baseless comment... it must be in the campaign training guide.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

steven787 said:
Final-Fan said:
halogamer1989 said:  Lenin said the same thing, Steve.  Also, look for sampling bias in MSM polling.

I see you've changed your sig, but not your smear of choice.  Marxist, Leninist, Communist ... please stop it.  You're wrong, and you're not going to convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you otherwise.

P.S.  I can't easily find your former sig on Google image search.  Do you still have it?  Will you show me?  It's actually pretty clever, albeit in a way I despise, and I'd like to have a copy for myself if you are willing to oblige. 

[edit:  Never mind.  Google cache FTW!]

 

Never bother asking him questions.  Example of Halogamer behavior: He makes a baseless comment, if you react defensively he keeps going.  if you point out the flaw in his reasoning, then he realizes he is out of his league and then waits a little bit before making another baseless comment... it must be in the campaign training guide.

You can ask me ?s.  Just do not act like a 2 year old in rebuttal.  BTW, you have been reported.

 



You can ask me ?s.

So halogamer1989, how do you feel about the fact that McCain's tax cut is aimed mostly at the wealthy?

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/411693_CandidateTaxPlans.pdf

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My advice to fanboys: Brag about stuff that's true, not about stuff that's false. Predict stuff that's likely, not stuff that's unlikely. You will be happier, and we will be happier.

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Final-Fan said:
You can ask me ?s.

So halogamer1989, how do you feel about the fact that McCain's tax cut is aimed mostly at the wealthy?

http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/UploadedPDF/411693_CandidateTaxPlans.pdf

As far as Brookings, here is a summary from a Washington Post article who is a liberal newspaper themselves.  When they say that B.s is lib, you better believe it.

The Honeymoon

Ken Herman writes for Cox News Service with the question on everyone's mind in Washington: "Bipartisan peace in our times, or temporary ceasefire . . .

"'Both sides have been magnificent so far,' Ron Haskins, a senior fellow at the liberal Brookings Institution, said at a Friday seminar. 'Everybody's bipartisan. It's going to last at least another half hour.' "

 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/blog/2006/11/13/BL2006111300496_pf.html

 

It is better to spread money out evenly than do a welfare Robin Hood state.  Look, Obama can't pay for this anyway--with a recession in play he will have no choice but to renig on this proposal.  Still if Obama does pay for these, he will need to cut hundreds of federal programs' budgets.  McCain will not do this.  You can get in contact w/ my superiors at my HQ for more @ 703-418-2008.  Ask for Mary Conway.