akuma587 said:
Its all kind of out of context, but if a woman knows she is about to go into labor (her water has already burst) and then decides to get on a plane, she has made a dangerous decision for both her child and herself. Every major airline has a policy that you have to have doctor's permission to even board the plane, which Sarah Palin didn't. It is also their policy to make an emergency landing. If their are any complications on a plane, you are completely screwed, because there is no suitable medical equipment, not to mention it is hard to even go to the bathroom sometimes during flight, let alone give birth to a child. Mr Bubbles claimed that he saw no potential problems with delivering a baby on a plane. If you have a choice to have a baby on or off a plane, I think that choice is clear, ESPECIALLY if labor has already begun. That was just one of the many examples of dumb things Mr. Bubbles has said, so don't take it the wrong way.
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It's really quite sad that you're still on this. This debate has played out already in the first Palin thread on this site. It was tabloid news then, just as it is now.
For the record her water had not "burst", she was leaking amniotic fluid which is common for women who are on child #5. She consulted her doctor with the details & specifics (something neither of us have) and she advised her (with her medical expertise, something else we lack) that she could travel. And quite frankly thats the end of the story, or at least it is until you can find a doctor who was also a party to each of those numerous phone conversations that disagrees with her (the doctor).
Alaska Airlines has no such rule and leaves the decision to the woman and her doctor, said spokeswoman Caroline Boren. Palin was very pleasant to the gate agents and flight attendants, as always, Boren said.
"I don't think it was unreasonable for her to continue to travel back," Baldwin-Johnson said.
-Note: Cathy Baldwin-Johnson is Palin's doctor
So the Palins flew on Alaska Airlines from Dallas to Anchorage, stopping in Seattle and checking with the doctor along the way.
"I am not a glutton for pain and punishment. I would have never wanted to travel had I been fully engaged in labor," Palin said. After four kids, the governor said, she knew what labor felt like, and she wasn't in labor.
This is particularly ridiculous because while you complain about smears on Obama you are now engaging in perpetuating smears of your own on Palin. This is precisely the kind of crap that people are fed up with in politics and ironically is the very reason this election is so close right now. It detracts from real issues, it detracts from the messeges of both campaigns, and it detracts from the ability of the voters to make a decision for the right reasons. That is something I've seen you speak highly of but is perhaps a conviction you hold only when it is politically expedient. [?]
If you have any genuine desire for a political landscape devoid of such rhetoric, you will stop spreading this garbage yourself and apologize. I sincerely hope you do, for if you don't I I've severely misjudged you. But at least then I will know.
PS - And yes it genuinely pisses me off, if you couldn't tell. It's getting ridiculous that this stuff hasn't stopped after nearly two weeks. Others have made it clear they can't handle such political debates without delving into such trifles, but I had had the impression that you could.
@OP,
You need to get your facts straight as well.
First you can look here in regards to the Bush Doctrine question, which she responded to correctly despite it being a very "gotcha" question (which are imo fair game), for those not wanting to click the link...The Bush Doctrine has at least 4 different meanings depending on who you ask and when you ask them, even Wikipedia again says "various aspects of the bush foriegn policy" which it said before this debate. Granted it has changed a few times in the roughly 440 edits that have occured since the interview ended last week (compared to the 96 before then), but it once again uses the pre-interview language for that portion (for now at least).
Second you can read this to see what Palin really said about the Russia situation and just how much the editing process warped her response. Again for those who don't want to click, they edited practically any line having to do with sanctions as an option or anything to do with "wanting to avoid war" or "avoiding another cold war" and opted instead to run with a version that included only comments that came off as hawkish.
Third, and finally, McCain's age is a minor concern at best. His mother of 96 and her twin sister are both probably vying for the title of "Most active 96 year old in N. America". His 4 bouts with cancer have all been skin cancer which, when caught early (like he has all 4 times) is about as far from lifethreatening as it gets. Of course the actuary tables say he has another 12 years as well. His war injuries are all injuries dealing with personal comforts. Torture, in purpose, is not intended to cause life-threatening physical harm, but rather to induce excruciating pain that you will live to remember for a long time.
Now, to both of you, enough is enough, if you would like to make your case for Obama you can do it with policy issues that are a matter of opinion & debate rather than using tabloid smears that are substantively and factually deficient and based on little more than rumors and propaganda. So lets just stick to the real issues, there are certainly plenty of them and with far far more importance than the smears of Palin's prenatal care or Obama's religion.








