Interesting post.
I think it's still a good while away though wouldn't be surprised if it would come out in 2014.

Interesting post.
I think it's still a good while away though wouldn't be surprised if it would come out in 2014.

^Agree!!! At least 4 years to go before we hear and see a PS4 so no worries
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| Dean Evans said:
Whatever the PS4 looks like, the final question to be asked is: when will it launch? Sony's Kaz Hirai has already given us a hint: "If you look at the history of the way we've managed our console business," he said, "we always try to hit a 10-year life cycle " That might put any PS4 launch back to 2016. But when you consider that the PS2 is still chugging along in the shadow of the PS3, a PS4 could easily sit alongside and overlap the existence of the PS3. |
Typical mistake to take the "10-year life cycle" statements to mean that PS4 will launch 10 years after PS3. Sony has never said anything like that. 10-year life cycle means, a given console will continue to sell for 10 years even though a newer console has come onto the market. The life cycles overlap, in other words.
And: there will be optical drives in the next "gen" of consoles. The option to download will just be much more widely available.
I don't buy a lot of this, it's not exactly revolutionary stuff. PS3 could have taken care of a lot of these problems. If Sony truly "priced themselves out of this generation", it's their own fault. They didn't have to put so many expensive components in the PS3. They could have made a machine that was closer to the 360 in cost, released it at roughly the same time, and the console war would be a lot different at this point. It's no secret that MS is the underdog in this whole thing, so Sony wouldn't have had to do much to put themselves in a better position this gen.
EDIT: BTW, the digital hub already exists. It's called a router. You can pretty much send a signal from a router to just about anything and have access to any media you need throughout your entire house. And believe me, you don't need a console to make it happen.
| Sky Render said: Hm, another article from the Magical Market crowd. At least this one had the courtesy to make a passing reference to the market being re-molded in that the Wii is kicking the 360 and PS3's incrementally upgraded butts, but still. The entire article stinks of the "ignore it and it'll go away" mentality surrounding the market disruption. News flash: it doesn't work like that. When new values are injected into a market, you either adapt to them or die out. It's happened this way in countless markets over the entire span of human civilization with no deviations. Don't be the ice cutters who got put out of a job because they thought the electric refrigerator and freezer would never catch on. |
Sony/MS success is independent of Nintendo's as long as the products are sufficiently different, as long as Nintendo keeps concentrating on achieving sales to "new" demographics, and as long as at least one offering is relatively cheap.
Now, among similarly (higher) priced consoles, it's much more true that one company wins at the expense of others (happened last gen...)
Some very good points, but have to say that taking out the BD reader when BD's will be in full swing and the drives will be super cheap is just plan dumb to even think of! Digital Down loads are 10 years away yet. DD's will slowly creep in, yes, but will not just all happen at once like some seem to think so. Also, my money is on the 360 having a BD drive too.
Taking out the multimedia is another ferkin' stupid idea, especially when the others will have these features and the previous 2 PS plaforms did too.
I do agree with it using pumped up CELL's which should help to make it similar to develop for. All the other things tho are obvious.
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Are people ALREADY losing faith in the PS3?
Also, I love how some people are already hyping something that literally has absolutely NO information. And I even see some people putting it down.
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A FABLE FROM AN ALTERNATIVE UNIVERSE
In about 2010 a meeting is being held at Sony to finalize specs for the PS4. Realizing that HD isn’t going to get any more “H” so once you can achieve all that and high enough frame rate, there’s really no where to go they decide doubling the cells, going to multi graphic cards, doubling the ram, keeping Blue-Ray and adding in a TB size hard disk would just about make the ultimate gaming console . And, says the chairman, “I think we can keep the price down to where we lose very little the first year and reach profitability by year two.” Everyone looks pleased until a very junior assistant to the assistant assistant quits typing on his Sony notebook and holds it up and says, “but sir my notebook computer already has multicellular architecture and SLI graphic cards, a 2 TB harddisk and HDMI output. It can already outperform what you’re proposing and costs very little more. Everybody already owns one, and when you’re not playing games you can use it for school and making a living. And besides, it has its own HD screen and battery power so I can take my game with me where ever I go. Why would I spend money on a separate machine when I have this already.”
“But said the president, what about our teenagers, they’re our best customers?”
The young assistant shrugged. “From middle school on, they all have computers too and theirs tend to be even more advanced.”
“Well then,” yelled the president, “who the hell does that leave us for a console market, just the kiddies?”
“Well no says the vice president, “ not really. We always considered them too casual because they liked things like Nintendogs and Animal Crossing and dumb games like Mari Karts so we pretty much let Nintendo have them.”
“Well then,” thundered the now very irate chairman, what’s left, just the retirees that don’t need good computers?”
“Well not really,” the ex-senior vice chairman says sheepishly, “You remember that day I kinda foolishly announced we weren’t interested in the seniors; now they won’t even talk to us.”
The president sat down looking very glum. “Damn he says, it looks like we’ll just have to concentrate on building better notebooks and better games. We’re going to have to pay those SOBs over at Microsoft a license for every gaming PC sold. Someone want to explain that waggle thing to me again?”
In Redwood Washington, a similar meeting is breaking up except the president says. “It looks like all we can do is write better versions of Halo and concentrate on creating a really good operating system for gaming and collect billions in licensing fees. If only those SOBs at Sony weren’t finally going to make money on that damn Blue-Ray. Someone want to explain that waggle thing to me again?”
Another meeting of software designers had just taken a vote on the resolution that the console wars and the incredible demands in developing graphics were making it impossible to make a profit so given the fact that most games were developed first on a computer, then the console makers would just have to take that and make it work. It passed unanimously.
At Nintendo, a great party was going on.
In the end, many computer manufacturers benefited by getting into the business. Microsoft did better by getting out of the hardware business where they didn’t belong and finally wrote the kind of operating system they should have written years before. Sony went back to doing what they do best and made probably the best gaming computer of all, and actually made money.
Game developers could concentrate on a single well known architecture and the number and quality of games went up while small companies could now afford to take chances of bold new IPs.
Hardcore gamers were thrilled because of the quality of the games was better since every game was always on the development platform and never ported and because they now had access to all games. Best of ll, Mom and dad (or the boss) were happy to pay for their computer since it wasn’t a silly gaming thingamabob.
Nintendo, well they just stayed Nintendo. The Wii2 actually turned out to be the only “console” left and it was little changed except it added HD and BR. Motion + perfected motion control so it was still accessible to everyone and even became popular with the hardcore who couldn’t even imagine a light saber battle fought any other way. And for the casuals, it looked like Mario would continue rescuing Princess Peach forever.
So the end of the console war actually began the golden age of gaming.
The End

| starcraft said: Getting rid of optical drives wont happen next generation. Markets like Australia would be almost completely wiped out given our download speeds and capacities. |
You are 100% right about that starcraft. The thing is, even if we have a decent internet connection we are screwed by the fact that our ISPs do not allow unlimited downloads. For example right now I have a 12Mbps connection but I can only download a maximum of 60 Gig per month at which point my connection gets capped and I get dial up speeds lol.
This problem is not just Australia's but a lot of countries. So we can safely assume that optical drives will be around for the forseeable future 
I can already hear it now, if any of this retooling the ps3 for PS4 is true - "lol the PS4 is 2 ps3's duct taped together" and all the other "intelligent" posts we heard about the Wii in the current gen.