i am the owner of every single console of this generation, except a DS which i broke about a year ago but plan to buy another one. Here in the uk its starting to piss me off about the amount of casual games that are being advertised. all i ever see is silly adverts for Petz games, beach sports party for the wii, and stupid games, that i'll never understand who gave the green light to make them, like my classroom where you act like being a teacher.

I mean i understand why there are casual games out there. ever since nintendo made nintendogs, which by the way i hated and never quite understood the concept and dont consider it a game, every other company has been quick to jump on the bandwagon and try and make a profit. Also with the wii i dont understand how it became a 'casual' console when at launch it only came out with one or two casual game. the first being wii sports, which was bundled in anyways and the other being RRR which was something new ubisoft was trying out. There were hardcore games at launch too.

I don't understand how the gaming industry came to be like this, with casual games floating around everywhere and hardcore games taking like 3 years to complete (refering to hd games of course, wii and ds games don't take that long). and now sony and microsoft have announced their intentions to get into the casual market. 

Maybe i'm complaining abour nothing, but in all honesty i hope this casual gaming thing is only a cycle in gaming history and wont transfer over to the next gen (which is probably will with all consoles vying to be casual king). or maybe i'm dissappointed because 'hardcore' gamers like us have to share the limelight with this new generation of 'casual' gamers

thats my little rant... hope it dont get me into too much trouble

Nintendogs was far from the first casual game.

I wouldn't worry. All that's happening is that more and more differening demographics are opening up, allowing for broader and broader types of 'games'.

So yes, we're seeing lots more 'casual' games, and they sell a lot. But we're still seeing lots of hardcore RPG and jRPG, shooters, etc. and they can sell massively as well.

Now like all market changes you'll see some peaks/troughs - so for a while you might feel too many developers are trying to make a quick buck on Wii for example.

But this will settle down. While plenty of developers will focus on quick/casual games you'll still get big hardcore titles too.

As for why they take longer? Well, because they're more complex. Too me the PS3/360 have brought many games to PC levels of detail/complexity for content, etc. and that takes time. However I believe development kits will continue to improve, and as developers get more and more games out for the HD consoles they will increase speed of development.

So I do think you're worrying about nothing to an extent - or at least worrying about something inevitable.

Is all you are complaining about the advertising for such games?

I understand that... as it is annoyingly working, for instance my cousin has a DS with Nintendogs, NSMB, a couple of other games, and Catz.... she is very casual but even she doesn't like Catz, despite loving Nintendogs which proves to me that Catz is not just casual, it's proper shovelware too, and the onlyreason it is selling is because UBiSoft chooses to advertise the game to no end.

I can happily ignore things like that though, and just find the games I like, which is easy as there are lots I think I would really like out now, and coming out soon... the hard part is buying them without any money

You obviously just completely misunderstand casual gaming and are being nothing but a selfish elitist who is not open to the video game market expanding and being flooded with shitty games for people who buy nothing except games they recognize off of the brand alone.

Shame on you, expecting quality from your games and asking companies to do more than rip off existing brands for a quick buck! That is what the people want after all!

The thing is to some people those "shitty games" aren't as shitty as you may think. I'm sure a mom would rather play wii sports than any game that interests you or me. The thing that bothers me is when the games are bad despite their targeted demograph.

I think you summed it up nicely. Good job.

Yes, I know.  That is why movies like Transformers do so well at the box office.

Why is it that people are so keen to try to force their opinions onto others? These casual games are selling and giving some people a lot of fun, why do you want to take that away from people?

Don't like a game? Don't play it. Problem solved.

As the industry expands, so does the audience - which has gradually grown to include idiots. These people require (and have the right to) games that are made specifically to cater to them.

Just ignore it and shut up!