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Gamerace said:

@yushire -   Look at Capcom, they've just announced all major titles will now be on 360/PS3/PC. Wii will get support but it seems no major titles. Core gamers buy a lot of games. It's not a problem to sell 1m on PS3/360/PC. The only problem is making a profit off of only 1m games sold on 360/PS3/PC. The development cost is killing many smaller publishers but for larger companies like Capcom it's still their bread and butter.

Nintendo seeks to grow the market so that there's room for everyone: all publishers, all consumers and all games alike, not to put an end to core games. That market will always exist.  But since 'core' gamers love their HD graphics they just won't exist much on Wii.

 

Which is sad because in Japan alone the only 3rd parties that supports HD consoles are SEGA, Squeenix, Namco Bandai and Konami. Most of the middle tier 3rd parties jump ship already like Hudson and Marvelous Entertainment. Same thing that will happen in NA...

In year 2009 as I predicted there'll be big jump ship with middle tier 3rd parties what SONY and MS afraids the most.



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

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Gamerace said:

 

Unfortunately, that's not what has been shown so far.  Only the ability to 'play' tunes - which means waggling at any speed and the song will play - correctly - at the speed of your waggling.  And the ability to freestyle the instruments.  How well that works is anyone's guess.  No ability to record or truly compose has been shown.

 

 You're right, but at E3 it was a bit different when Miyamoto was on stage, and was playing alone pressing buttons randomly and creating music. I'm sure that option will be in the game  toy, if not....



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too bad even how we bash the wii and its games waggle is where we're heading. Like just the article of malstrom says many will drowned in tidal wave of casuals and its already happening.

If Wii Music become succesful then I must accept that core gaming was dying. Yeah, you just flail with your wiimote and your nunchuck. Sure, the game makes the song for you but what can we do if it become succesful? What can we do if it become another instant multi million seller?

We might just admit that we in the internetz wasnt the consumer of this new generation. Our generation was over, I fully realized it on E3 its sad but its the truth. Even The Conduit and Madworld cant stop it. There are many people playing Wii Sports, wii play, Wii Fit and Mario Kart Wii than playing Call of Duty 4, Metal Gear Solid 4, halo 3 and Devil May Cry 4. Its over...



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

yushire said:
too bad even how we bash the wii and its games waggle is where we're heading. Like just the article of malstrom says many will drowned in tidal wave of casuals and its already happening.

If Wii Music become succesful then I must accept that core gaming was dying. Yeah, you just flail with your wiimote and your nunchuck. Sure, the game makes the song for you but what can we do if it become succesful? What can we do if it become another instant multi million seller?

We might just admit that we in the internetz wasnt the consumer of this new generation. Our generation was over, I fully realized it on E3 its sad but its the truth. Even The Conduit and Madworld cant stop it. There are many people playing Wii Sports, wii play, Wii Fit and Mario Kart Wii than playing Call of Duty 4, Metal Gear Solid 4, halo 3 and Devil May Cry 4. Its over...

 

 Are you being sarcastic?



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vaio said:
yushire said:
too bad even how we bash the wii and its games waggle is where we're heading. Like just the article of malstrom says many will drowned in tidal wave of casuals and its already happening.

If Wii Music become succesful then I must accept that core gaming was dying. Yeah, you just flail with your wiimote and your nunchuck. Sure, the game makes the song for you but what can we do if it become succesful? What can we do if it become another instant multi million seller?

We might just admit that we in the internetz wasnt the consumer of this new generation. Our generation was over, I fully realized it on E3 its sad but its the truth. Even The Conduit and Madworld cant stop it. There are many people playing Wii Sports, wii play, Wii Fit and Mario Kart Wii than playing Call of Duty 4, Metal Gear Solid 4, halo 3 and Devil May Cry 4. Its over...

 

 Are you being sarcastic?

I think Im being overboard there but thats what I feel. Im just posting my opinion...

 



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

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yushire said:
vaio said:
yushire said:
too bad even how we bash the wii and its games waggle is where we're heading. Like just the article of malstrom says many will drowned in tidal wave of casuals and its already happening.

If Wii Music become succesful then I must accept that core gaming was dying. Yeah, you just flail with your wiimote and your nunchuck. Sure, the game makes the song for you but what can we do if it become succesful? What can we do if it become another instant multi million seller?

We might just admit that we in the internetz wasnt the consumer of this new generation. Our generation was over, I fully realized it on E3 its sad but its the truth. Even The Conduit and Madworld cant stop it. There are many people playing Wii Sports, wii play, Wii Fit and Mario Kart Wii than playing Call of Duty 4, Metal Gear Solid 4, halo 3 and Devil May Cry 4. Its over...

 

 Are you being sarcastic?

I think Im being overboard there but thats what I feel. Im just posting my opinion...

 

Well then you are everreacting, I have been playing since 1980 and I welcome the change whoheartedly cause I know there will be a hell of an gaming experience through this course o way that Nintendo choose.

I enjoy all the traditional games just as the next person but we have done this for over the past 10 years.

The way of gaming as we know it today will die out if it continues to be the main focus of all gamers and developers, we will all get bored with time if we continue to play the same games over and over again for anothr 10+ games. The time has come for focus to shift to alternate gaming experience and it will run it´s cycle when it has focus will shift again and we will get back to the way of gaming you are used too and this time it will be reinvented and improved compared to todays standard.

In order for this reinvention to happen it needs to get out of the gaming focus a while, this doesn´t mean that the games you are afraid wil die out actually will die out whey will just not be the main focus for a while just to return better and more entertaining.

We are in the gaming age where not graphics is the main focus of gaming evolution but the much needed controll scheme is instead the focus of gamng evolution and it needs to have it´s course run untill we get the best possible evolution out of it.

So don´t worry and enjoy all the different strokes of gaming you will experience, this is the first generation that will experience this divrse gaming in the whole gaming history and you really need to enjoy it cause it isn´t coming back but it also means that you have to tolerate that not all of this evolution will be to your liking but I am sure you can afford other gamers different then you to have a great gaming experience even if it´s different from your personal preference.

 

 



Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello"      R.I.P AC Milan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

vaio said:

Well then you are everreacting, I have been playing since 1980 and I welcome the change whoheartedly cause I know there will be a hell of an gaming experience through this course o way that Nintendo choose.

I enjoy all the traditional games just as the next person but we have done this for over the past 10 years.

The way of gaming as we know it today will die out if it continues to be the main focus of all gamers and developers, we will all get bored with time if we continue to play the same games over and over again for anothr 10+ games. The time has come for focus to shift to alternate gaming experience and it will run it´s cycle when it has focus will shift again and we will get back to the way of gaming you are used too and this time it will be reinvented and improved compared to todays standard.

In order for this reinvention to happen it needs to get out of the gaming focus a while, this doesn´t mean that the games you are afraid wil die out actually will die out whey will just not be the main focus for a while just to return better and more entertaining.

We are in the gaming age where not graphics is the main focus of gaming evolution but the much needed controll scheme is instead the focus of gamng evolution and it needs to have it´s course run untill we get the best possible evolution out of it.

So don´t worry and enjoy all the different strokes of gaming you will experience, this is the first generation that will experience this divrse gaming in the whole gaming history and you really need to enjoy it cause it isn´t coming back but it also means that you have to tolerate that not all of this evolution will be to your liking but I am sure you can afford other gamers different then you to have a great gaming experience even if it´s different from your personal preference.

 

 

 

The problem was the transitional stage though, its like when pinball wasnt popular anymore and replaced with Pong. Its good as a novelty before then the repitition and the novelty wears off. It takes awhile before someone create a new genre and space invaders, breakdown, pac man and defender were born. But the first stage of Pong was JUST PONG yeah, it replaced the pinball and its a disruptive product, many creative  minds inspired by pong and create video games behind it but it  started because of Pong. And before space invaders, everyone  JUST PLAYS PONG.

Now fast forward today, everyone just plays mini game collections and party games. I know there'll be a good thing come out of this but when? The transitional stage was really hard waiting what will come out in all of this.



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

yushire said:
vaio said:

Well then you are everreacting, I have been playing since 1980 and I welcome the change whoheartedly cause I know there will be a hell of an gaming experience through this course o way that Nintendo choose.

I enjoy all the traditional games just as the next person but we have done this for over the past 10 years.

The way of gaming as we know it today will die out if it continues to be the main focus of all gamers and developers, we will all get bored with time if we continue to play the same games over and over again for anothr 10+ games. The time has come for focus to shift to alternate gaming experience and it will run it´s cycle when it has focus will shift again and we will get back to the way of gaming you are used too and this time it will be reinvented and improved compared to todays standard.

In order for this reinvention to happen it needs to get out of the gaming focus a while, this doesn´t mean that the games you are afraid wil die out actually will die out whey will just not be the main focus for a while just to return better and more entertaining.

We are in the gaming age where not graphics is the main focus of gaming evolution but the much needed controll scheme is instead the focus of gamng evolution and it needs to have it´s course run untill we get the best possible evolution out of it.

So don´t worry and enjoy all the different strokes of gaming you will experience, this is the first generation that will experience this divrse gaming in the whole gaming history and you really need to enjoy it cause it isn´t coming back but it also means that you have to tolerate that not all of this evolution will be to your liking but I am sure you can afford other gamers different then you to have a great gaming experience even if it´s different from your personal preference.

 

 

 

The problem was the transitional stage though, its like when pinball wasnt popular anymore and replaced with Pong. Its good as a novelty before then the repitition and the novelty wears off. It takes awhile before someone create a new genre and space invaders, breakdown, pac man and defender were born. But the first stage of Pong was JUST PONG yeah, it replaced the pinball and its a disruptive product, many creative  minds inspired by pong and create video games behind it but it  started because of Pong. And before space invaders, everyone  JUST PLAYS PONG.

Now fast forward today, everyone just plays mini game collections and party games. I know there'll be a good thing come out of this but when? The transitional stage was really hard waiting what will come out in all of this.

 

 A better and more diverse gaming experience for all gamers not just us in the traditional way of gaming.



Vaio - "Bury me at Milanello"      R.I.P AC Milan

In the 60's, people took acid to make the world weird.
Now the world is weird  and people take Prozac  to make it normal.

If laughing is the best medicine and marijuana makes you laugh

Is marijuana the best medicine?

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."

“If any creator has not played Mario, then they’re probably not a good creator. That’s something I can say with 100 percent confidence. Mario is, for game creators, the development bible.

vaio said:

 

 A better and more diverse gaming experience for all gamers not just us in the traditional way of gaming.

 

Thats what im thinking in a long time, even when I born and lived when pinballs are replaced with pong, even myself cant think on what genre can be generate on a game that 2 planes moving up and down and  a bouncing block what more in this generation. It seem we have all the possible genre we have what genre can be emrged on the Wii?

 

But then, thats what happened when NES came around and when 3-d gaming came around. Cant really believe that Super Mario 64 revolutionized the 3-d genre of games...



end of core gaming days prediction:

 

E3 2006-The beginning of the end. Wii introduced

 

E3 2008- Armageddon. Wii motion plus introduced. Wii Music. Reggie says Animal crossing was a core game. Massive disappointment. many Wii core gamers selling their Wii.

 

E3 2010- Tape runs out

http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/march2009/ICG_Tape_runs_out.jpg

vaio said:
yushire said:
vaio said:

Well then you are everreacting, I have been playing since 1980 and I welcome the change whoheartedly cause I know there will be a hell of an gaming experience through this course o way that Nintendo choose.

I enjoy all the traditional games just as the next person but we have done this for over the past 10 years.

The way of gaming as we know it today will die out if it continues to be the main focus of all gamers and developers, we will all get bored with time if we continue to play the same games over and over again for anothr 10+ games. The time has come for focus to shift to alternate gaming experience and it will run it´s cycle when it has focus will shift again and we will get back to the way of gaming you are used too and this time it will be reinvented and improved compared to todays standard.

In order for this reinvention to happen it needs to get out of the gaming focus a while, this doesn´t mean that the games you are afraid wil die out actually will die out whey will just not be the main focus for a while just to return better and more entertaining.

We are in the gaming age where not graphics is the main focus of gaming evolution but the much needed controll scheme is instead the focus of gamng evolution and it needs to have it´s course run untill we get the best possible evolution out of it.

So don´t worry and enjoy all the different strokes of gaming you will experience, this is the first generation that will experience this divrse gaming in the whole gaming history and you really need to enjoy it cause it isn´t coming back but it also means that you have to tolerate that not all of this evolution will be to your liking but I am sure you can afford other gamers different then you to have a great gaming experience even if it´s different from your personal preference.

 

 

 

The problem was the transitional stage though, its like when pinball wasnt popular anymore and replaced with Pong. Its good as a novelty before then the repitition and the novelty wears off. It takes awhile before someone create a new genre and space invaders, breakdown, pac man and defender were born. But the first stage of Pong was JUST PONG yeah, it replaced the pinball and its a disruptive product, many creative  minds inspired by pong and create video games behind it but it  started because of Pong. And before space invaders, everyone  JUST PLAYS PONG.

Now fast forward today, everyone just plays mini game collections and party games. I know there'll be a good thing come out of this but when? The transitional stage was really hard waiting what will come out in all of this.

 

 A better and more diverse gaming experience for all gamers not just us in the traditional way of gaming.

not for the wii sadly.

one of the promises nintendo make was to get third parties make more mature games.

the thing is third party choose HD over the wii (quite understandable after e3 i feel embarassed of owning a wii and telling people more mature games would come).

this christmas i say suck it and bought a ps3, since brawl hype was over i havent turned on my wii and won't play with it much for a while.

 

if wii music its their big title for christmas they can stick it where it fit, i am going to play resistance 2 in co op.