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Kasz216 on 10 September 2008

Well more independents lean republican then democratic.

Probably because Democrats feel more "inclusive" as a "one issue" party

While the republicans tend to have little patience for those who aren't straight down the line Cons or Neo-Cons.

I mean... what's the republican paralel to Union VS Enviroment democrats?

They have basically the exact opposite economic values... and often enviromental issues.  Not that Union democrats are "screw stopping gloabl warming" but they don't believe in the extreme measures that would likely cost a lot of automaker jobs.  (for obvious reasons.)

 



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bonkers555 on 10 September 2008

What make me so upset about this election is that most of the Major Media outlet are so in bed with Obama. NBC and Oprah just plain bias. I'm so happy that NBC have notice it and pull both Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews off of the Elections reporting. Don't get me started on Oprah.



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The_vagabond7 on 10 September 2008

Who the fuck cares about Oprah? That's not media bias, that's a woman with an opinion. She's not a reporter, she's a talk show host.



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bigjon on 10 September 2008

gallup has increased for McCain actually... and Rasmussen has risen a point or 2 for Obama. Those are the only polls I even look at.

If this is dead even going into the debates Obama is F'd. He is a bumbling fool when the telepromtor is off and he actually has to defend his ideas and issues. If you have watch him on O'Reilly, or the Democratic debates, or with Stephanopolis sunday morning you would know what I mean.



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Kasz216 on 10 September 2008
bigjon said:
gallup has increased for McCain actually... and Rasmussen has risen a point or 2 for Obama. Those are the only polls I even look at.

If this is dead even going into the debates Obama is F'd. He is a bumbling fool when the telepromtor is off and he actually has to defend his ideas and issues. If you have watch him on O'Reilly, or the Democratic debates, or with Stephanopolis sunday morning you would know what I mean.

 

Depends on the style of debate.  Obama has argueing for a debate that's more "giving a series of speaches" then "Answering questions."

I mean there is a reason why Obama avoided the 10 debate plan McCain laid out.  If it was up to McCain they would of already had a few debates.  Heck they would of had at least 1 before the VP was selected.



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akuma587 on 10 September 2008
bonkers555 said:
What make me so upset about this election is that most of the Major Media outlet are so in bed with Obama. NBC and Oprah just plain bias. I'm so happy that NBC have notice it and pull both Keith Olbermann and Chris Matthews off of the Elections reporting. Don't get me started on Oprah.

Like vagabond said, Orprah has her own show, and even her own production studio, so she isn't bound to report news.  She's not a reporter.  What is wrong with her supporting one candidate or the other?  Just because you are on television you aren't allowed to have opinions?  Hell, a lot of people in the media don't even follow that rule.  Look at Bill O'Reily.

Edit: You would have a totally different opinion if Oprah was a big supporter of Sarah Palin.

 



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JBoogie on 10 September 2008

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MontanaHatchet on 10 September 2008

Every time I read what a Conservative poster on this forum has to say, I feel like I'm banging my head repeatedly into a slab of concrete. Seriously, Obama's name was not even mentioned ONCE in the original post or the thread title, and we've already had several people insulting him (either him being favored by "teh bias media" or him being a "bumbling fool").

On to the main topic, which is that Obama and McCain are consistently in close competition. Obama was the victor in dozens of polls leading up to the RNC, so it's not surprising for the McCain lead to slip. The two should be pretty close by the next poll, and maybe Obama with a slight lead by the next one.



 

 

Jackson50 on 10 September 2008
Kasz216 said:

Well more independents lean republican then democratic.

Probably because Democrats feel more "inclusive" as a "one issue" party

While the republicans tend to have little patience for those who aren't straight down the line Cons or Neo-Cons.

I mean... what's the republican paralel to Union VS Enviroment democrats?

They have basically the exact opposite economic values... and often enviromental issues.  Not that Union democrats are "screw stopping gloabl warming" but they don't believe in the extreme measures that would likely cost a lot of automaker jobs.  (for obvious reasons.)

 

That is true. The GOP has won the independent vote in 5 elections since 1976. The Democrats have one the independent vote three times since 1976. All these polls are telling us is that this will be a close election. Obama will still win (the popular vote, at least), but it will be a close election on November 4th. McCain was the one candidate (possibly Thompson) that could give the Democrats a challenge and he is doing that.

 



akuma587 on 10 September 2008

Independents and women will be the key to this election. An Oprah appearance for Obama should help with the latter.



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It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson