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If ever there was a car made for the times, this would seem to be it: a sporty subcompact that seats five, offers a navigation system, and gets a whopping 65 miles to the gallon. Oh yes, and the car is made by Ford Motor (F), known widely for lumbering gas hogs.

Ford's 2009 Fiesta ECOnetic goes on sale in November. But here's the catch: Despite the car's potential to transform Ford's image and help it compete with Toyota Motor (TM) and Honda Motor (HMC) in its home market, the company will sell the little fuel sipper only in Europe. "We know it's an awesome vehicle," says Ford America President Mark Fields. "But there are business reasons why we can't sell it in the U.S." The main one: The Fiesta ECOnetic runs on diesel.

Automakers such as Volkswagen (VLKAY) and Mercedes-Benz (DAI) have predicted for years that a technology called "clean diesel" would overcome many Americans' antipathy to a fuel still often thought of as the smelly stuff that powers tractor trailers. Diesel vehicles now hitting the market with pollution-fighting technology are as clean or cleaner than gasoline and at least 30% more fuel-efficient.

Yet while half of all cars sold in Europe last year ran on diesel, the U.S. market remains relatively unfriendly to the fuel. Taxes aimed at commercial trucks mean diesel costs anywhere from 40 cents to $1 more per gallon than gasoline. Add to this the success of the Toyota Prius, and you can see why only 3% of cars in the U.S. use diesel. "Americans see hybrids as the darling," says Global Insight auto analyst Philip Gott, "and diesel as old-tech."

None of this is stopping European and Japanese automakers, which are betting they can jump-start the U.S. market with new diesel models. Mercedes-Benz by next year will have three cars it markets as "BlueTec." Even Nissan (NSANY) and Honda, which long opposed building diesel cars in Europe, plan to introduce them in the U.S. in 2010. But Ford, whose Fiesta ECOnetic compares favorably with European diesels, can't make a business case for bringing the car to the U.S.

TOO PRICEY TO IMPORT

First of all, the engines are built in Britain, so labor costs are high. Plus the pound remains stronger than the greenback. At prevailing exchange rates, the Fiesta ECOnetic would sell for about $25,700 in the U.S. By contrast, the Prius typically goes for about $24,000. A $1,300 tax deduction available to buyers of new diesel cars could bring the price of the Fiesta to around $24,400. But Ford doesn't believe it could charge enough to make money on an imported ECOnetic.

Ford plans to make a gas-powered version of the Fiesta in Mexico for the U.S. So why not manufacture diesel engines there, too? Building a plant would cost at least $350 million at a time when Ford has been burning through more than $1 billion a month in cash reserves. Besides, the automaker would have to produce at least 350,000 engines a year to make such a venture profitable. "We just don't think North and South America would buy that many diesel cars," says Fields.

The question, of course, is whether the U.S. ever will embrace diesel fuel and allow automakers to achieve sufficient scale to make money on such vehicles. California certified VW and Mercedes diesel cars earlier this year, after a four-year ban. James N. Hall, of auto researcher 293 Analysts, says that bellwether state and the Northeast remain "hostile to diesel." But the risk to Ford is that the fuel takes off, and the carmaker finds itself playing catch-up—despite having a serious diesel contender in its arsenal.



I would cite regulation, but I know you will simply ignore it.

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The USA is getting the Ford Verve which is like 40MPG so no major issue with this decision. Let the car sell well in Europe where they prefer the smaller cars then bring it over later.



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Ford was like, "Oh yeah, we'll be profitable in 2009." Then they were like, "Oh yeah, we'll be profitable in 2010." Badass.



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i will stick to japanese cars ;).



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ssj12 said:
The USA is getting the Ford Verve which is like 40MPG so no major issue with this decision. Let the car sell well in Europe where they prefer the smaller cars then bring it over later.

 I can completely see your point. A car with less than 2/3rds the gas mileage is a perfect replacement for the 65mpg car. Why I can't think of a single way it could be better. Wait...



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Don't blame Ford, blame idiotic American consumers for not accepting diesel.




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Gnizmo said:
ssj12 said:
The USA is getting the Ford Verve which is like 40MPG so no major issue with this decision. Let the car sell well in Europe where they prefer the smaller cars then bring it over later.

 I can completely see your point. A car with less than 2/3rds the gas mileage is a perfect replacement for the 65mpg car. Why I can't think of a single way it could be better. Wait...

 

I said like since I hav eno idea how many mpg it actually has past its above 40. Ford is doing a smart strategy. Europe has a stronger economy and small cars sell insanely well there so they want Europe to buy enough cars to pay off R&D before selling it in the US market which by that time should have an improved economy. It really isnt stupid in the business world.



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ssj12 said:
 

I said like since I hav eno idea how many mpg it actually has past its above 40. Ford is doing a smart strategy. Europe has a stronger economy and small cars sell insanely well there so they want Europe to buy enough cars to pay off R&D before selling it in the US market which by that time should have an improved economy. It really isnt stupid in the business world.

 I agree that business wise this makes the most sense. Realistically the people who made this decision have never worked for Ford, and those idiots piss me off. I just don't agree that the other car is a good substitute. American consumers should be smart enough to make the right decision and force Ford to bring the better car here. I get amazingly depressed when I think like that though because I realize the average consumer will never get smart enough to make the right choice even in a situation this simple.



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First, make sure they're not talking about imperial gallons (Used in Commonwealth nations). They're larger than American gallons, and a lot of people get excited over super high gas mileage when they fail to convert. Second, Europe has less strict emissions laws if I'm not mistaken. This makes it easier to get better MPG.