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bigjon said:
Okay, I'll bite...

This is the same woman that Larry King had on for the post speech counter or whatever. They were all self proclaimed democrats.

It would kinda be like if Carl Rove was made the expert on Obama's speeches.

And yes her family is relavant. She wants to make herself look more normal or non-elitest (something that Obama is struggling with)

I also thought it was funny that people were questioning whether or not her kids should have been on stage... pretty sure Obama's little girls were on stage.

It was a great speech. The dems are reeling. I LOLed when the reporter read the Obama response to the speech. He said "this is the same responce we have been hearing, maybe if we give them more time they can do better"

She also took the teeth out of the Obama campaigns Experiance thing. She basically showed the public that Obama is saying she would not be qualified for pres, but he has even less than she does. Also since when does the VP lay out the policy? She talk about domestic issues, and such. But I think it would have been stupid to have her talk about Foriegn policy issue. Also when it came to Iraq she did not talk about anything but victory... she was just pointing out what pussies the Dems have been on the Issue.

Did you watch Obama's speech?  It was miles better than Palin's.  Palin was really lucky how many people tuned in though (only a few million short of Obama's).  All the positive and negative press seemed to help get her name out there.  We will see what kind of result it will have.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

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HappySqurriel said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
When Obama attacks his opponents' positions, he doesn't make up bullshit. Palin lied through her teeth several times. And he actually explains why he believes his strategies are better. Palin just said "Obama will raise every tax ever (huge lie) and I'm a hockey mom!" I know both parties fight dirty, but I don't think Obama and Biden are fighting as dirty as Palin did last night.

You need to come to a new definition of "lie" ... The Tax Policy Center claims that Obama plans on increasing taxes by $627 Billion over 10 years; and Obama's plan includes increases in multiple taxes to achieve this goal.

Is it as awful as the Republican's will portray? No, but it is no more misleading than anything the Democrats say about the Republican's policies.

Obama is cutting taxes for almost all Americans.  His tax cuts are bigger than McCain's.

Obama wants to repeal Bush's tax cuts for the wealthiest 2 brackets.  McCain wants to give them more cuts.

I have links to their policies in my sig.  They're very clear.  If you just Google Image Search "obama mccain tax cut" you get several handy graphs comparing the two.  It's much more efficient than to spit out a talking point.