Coca-Cola said:
steven787 said:
Coca-Cola said: Liberals are scared for some reason. If she is not a good candidate, then fine, she might not have been a good selection for mcCain, but I don't know why liberals so scared. It's like Clarence thomas thing. I think liberals should have been scared then, but not for this.
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I know you're talking about Democrat-liberals, but I just want to say, you are right:
As a classical liberal/moderate libertarian and I am scared by her.
She's dangerous. Hearing a potential president say that a war is a "task that is from God" is scary.
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your posts don't make you sound like a libertarian at all.
If you were, then you would be far far far away from Obama.
But I'll take your word for it.
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I think you are confusing libertarian with Libertarian, but I will explain anyway.
I believe that a free market, a free mind, and a free hand are essential to living out my utopian fantasy. That is all it is though. A fantasy. In reality, the world is full of bad things that one person cannot overcome on their own.
Democrats want your wallet, Republicans want everything else.
For some reason, Libertarians tend to align them selves with the Republicans because of lower taxes, and talk about free markets and less government spending (which neither party acts to lower the role of government).
But there are two elements to libertarianism. Economic freedom AND social freedom. Libertarians tend to forego the second to get the first.
Now, I'll go over the pragmatic parts
4th and 5th amendments have been abridged because of the Patriot Act in the name of "National Security" - a largely republican baby, but Dems have been voting for it because of fear of looking weak or being called unpatriotic (which really pisses me off but they will stop that bullshit when there's a Democratic president).
1st amendment, religious right and Republicans want to eliminate many forms of expression.
2nd amendment, Republicans keep saying Dems want to take away guns, but I haven't seen any serious gun ban proposals in the U.S on the Federal level.
Even if Democrats do pass socialized medicine and increase funding for schools, which won't happen, it would be a hell of a lot better than the abominable corruption in the "free market" medical industry and schools we have now. (Schools is one place I differ from pure libertarianism)
Foreign Policy: Democrats promote a plan much closer to libertarian and Libertarian foreign policy than the Reupublicans. Ask Ron Paul or any real Libertarian what they think of Republican foreign policy. I also believe the power to wage war lies in Congress' hands, not the executive.