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Sri Lumpa on 02 September 2008
bigjon said:
post modernism is in general terms to a belief that everything is relative and that there are no absolutes. For example, to a post- modernist it is a terrible thing for a person to think his religion is right, while another person's is false, because that would be an absolute. The following of this general ideology is part of the reason Bush is so vehemently hated by the left. Bush think in black and white, right and wrong, etc. That is almost barbaric to the far left. How can blame terrorist when they are just patriot for their own cause (far far left view). Bush says you messed with Texas, you f'd. No if an or buts.

Sounds to me like you are calling him a moral relativist while trying very hard not to use the term.



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ManusJustus on 02 September 2008
bigjon said:
That is not a "right" wing view.

Fundamental religious movements are right wing.  Osama bin laden is right wing.



senseinobaka on 02 September 2008
ManusJustus said:
bigjon said:
That is not a "right" wing view.

Fundamental religious movements are right wing.  Osama bin laden is right wing.

LMAO. Between this and you not believing Hitler was a socialist, I think it can be safely assumed that you have no clue how a political chart works.

Hint, Religious policy/enforcement is authoritarian. which, depending on the chart, is top or bottom on the social axis.

 



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rocketpig on 02 September 2008
ManusJustus said:

bigjon said:

How can blame terrorist when they are just patriot for their own cause (far far left view).

 

I like how the left gets blame for a right wing view.  Fundamental religious movements, including terrorism, are far right.

edit: got that backwards.

Conservative is right, liberal is left. Authoritarian (where religious fanatics usually reside) are bottom, libertarians are top. So, you're partially correct. Religious zealots often swing to the right a ways, but there's more to it than that.

 




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ManusJustus on 02 September 2008
senseinobaka said:
ManusJustus said:
bigjon said:
That is not a "right" wing view.

Fundamental religious movements are right wing.  Osama bin laden is right wing.

LMAO. Between this and you not believing Hitler was a socialist, I think it can be safely assumed that you have no clue how a political chart works. 

Wow.

Anybody with a lick of sense of politics will tell you than fundamenalist, religious movements are right wing.  Hitler was a fascist, he was about as socialist as the Democratic People's Republic of Korea was democratic.  See the trend here?  Dictators like to add nice words on their name to make them look better, but usually people aren't foolish enough to believe them.

For educational purposes:  To sum things up, Fascists, Republicans and even Democrats (though not as extreme) are in the top right, Communists in the top left, Libertarians in the bottom right, and socialists in the bottom left.

 



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Kasz216 on 02 September 2008

How is terrorism conservative?

Trying to change the government by circumventing the system is a bout as Liberal as you can get.



woopdeedoo on 02 September 2008

In my opinion, its just the Obama nuts fearing they'll be defeated by McCain.

And thats just the thing Dems would miraculously manage to do, even after 8 years of Bush.

Those guys are plain ridiculous.
I mean how did they even got into that position they're in now, a close race which could be won by either McCain or Obama.

How the f*** did this happen.
Obama should've been winning hands down.



Kasz216 on 02 September 2008
woopdeedoo said:
In my opinion, its just the Obama nuts fearing they'll be defeated by McCain.

And thats just the thing Dems would miraculously manage to do, even after 8 years of Bush.

Those guys are plain ridiculous.
I mean how did they even got into that position they're in now, a close race which could be won by either McCain or Obama.

How the f*** did this happen.
Obama should've been winning hands down.

The problem was that Obama did a whole 180 on a number of his positions the minute the primaries were over.

At least that's why he lost my vote.



ManusJustus on 02 September 2008
Kasz216 said:
How is terrorism conservative?

Trying to change the government by circumventing the system is a bout as Liberal as you can get.

Wow again.  Liberal means freedom, and forcing freedom on someone is difficult (its even difficult to say because it makes no sense).



Kasz216 on 02 September 2008
ManusJustus said:
Kasz216 said:
How is terrorism conservative?

Trying to change the government by circumventing the system is a bout as Liberal as you can get.

Wow again.  Liberal means freedom, and forcing freedom on someone is difficult (its even difficult to say because it makes no sense).

No.  Liberal means you are for change and progress.

Using the words conservative and liberal instead of Republican or Democrat or something similar in this sense is screwed up.

Conservatives are.... conservative.  They want things to be roughly how they are.  Liberals want to change things.  Either way.  The new "political" terms are nice and all but really don't mean anything when it comes to reality.

The Neo-Cons are just as Liberal as the Democrats.

Regardless... the Democrats aren't even true liberals.  They are very unliberal when it comes to many many issues.

They aren't really far left.  They're as close to Stalin as Repubs are to Hitler... as a lot of them are all about controlling what people watch on TV and other similar issues.

Both parties suck.  Immensly.