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what is so bad about John McCain?

And please do not pull the "He is another bush" bs. Because he is not.



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My bad 9/10 Bush, from looking at his voting record in Congress.



ManusJustus said:

My bad 9/10 Bush, from looking at his voting record in Congress.

Would that make Obama 97% party-line parrot?

bigjon lacks tact, and should have posted a more serious thread (potentially) about how the media seems to have a biased coverage of the presidential campaign, but that doesn't change the fact that he has a point.



lol, you just ripped that from Obama's propaganda last night.

Do realize how many issues(bills) they vote on!! 10% is actually a decent seperation. I would be willing to bet that many dems are in the same territory % wise. Also, there I times politicians just don't vote if they do not agree... Partisonship plays a major role.

You really need to stop drinking the Obama koolade... he is in your head. Don't be brainwashed so easily. Weed out the spin... The man is such a good speaker he could bring in awsome ratings on Cspan.



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ManusJustus said:

Or worse, John McCain actually ends up leading the country.

I dont understand you're ability to see the gray areas, everything must be black and white for you.  I actually like Sarah Palin and hope the Republican Party moves in her direction, less hypocrisyand old elitists would be nice.  I'd rather see Demcorats in the White House for now, America really needs to turn their economy around and if 8 years of Republicans hasn't taught you anything then there is no hope for you.

Do you still have the American dollar being worth more than the Canadian dollar on your magazines?  Or is America too poor to change the print?

 

Her and McCain are pretty similar.  So why do you not like McCain and like her?

 

The US Dollar is worth more than the Canadian Dollar.



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I actually saw the news report he was talking about but seriously why post this. I'm sorry but i wanna go back to the Clinton days when America wasnt shitty, the Dollar was actually valuable, when other countries liked us, and when the only bad news to report about the president was that he got a blowjob. Good times.

In a more serious tone Palini is an awkward choice but at least the Republicans party is finally progressing(democrat vp a while ago), but Biden is a much better VP choice IMO.



ZOMG bigjon your'e so brainwashed by the McBush kool aid oh man you gotta stop drinking that if you were SERIOUS about loving AMERICA you'd pay attention to the issues and do your homework, do some research and you will see the obvious choice is Obama. There's no argument. Man just keep drinking that kool aid and letting his propaganda get inside your head and you'll believe anything the party tells you to, oh man I just wrote all this and then realized I'm just mumbling gibberish and cliches and not making an argument... just... like... YOU.



Beja-Beja said:
I actually saw the news report he was talking about but seriously why post this. I'm sorry but i wanna go back to the Clinton days when America wasnt shitty, the Dollar was actually valuable, when other countries liked us, and when the only bad news to report about the president was that he got a blowjob. Good times.

In a more serious tone Palini is an awkward choice but at least the Republicans party is finally progressing(democrat vp a while ago), but Biden is a much better VP choice IMO.

 

Clinton's terms were very fruitful for the United States, but I don't think he was (necessarily) the cause for it and he certainly caused a lot of problems while he was in office.

A lot of changes that are made in government do not have immediate impacts, and quite often take 5 to 10 (or more) years before they have reached their peak impact; tax cuts and trade agreements (for example) can take decades for the growth they provide to have compounded to the extent that they're really noticeable. This means that a lot of the prosperity in Clinton's terms was actually from Bush and Regan.

At the same time, Clinton changed quite a few laws and enabled Alan Greenspan to run an inflationary monetary policy which were the main factors for the dot-com bubble and the housing bubble that followed. A lot of the ecconomic troubles we face today were just problems that were delayed (which typically makes things worse) from the 90s.

Now, I'm not saying that Clinton was a bad president but I do think it is foolish to evaluate a president without looking at their impact on the following two or three presidental terms. I personally believe that there are things that both Bush and Clinton did which worked out well for the United States over the past 8 years, and I also believe that there are things that both Bush and Clinton did which worked out very poorly for the United States over the past 8 years.



MrBubbles said: 

Her and McCain are pretty similar.  So why do you not like McCain and like her?

 

McCain is a hypocrite.  I dont know if you remember McCain before his most recent run for president, but he used to be seen an independent thinking, moderate leaning Republican.  When McCain decided that he would run for president in 2008, the days of independent thinking were over as John McCain became an identical puppet of Bush, hoping to gain the more conservative votes that he lost in his previous bid.

Bigjoin and others,

No, I didnt hear this from Obama last night, unlike some of you I have the ability to think for myself.  Obama's speech actually came from political scientists who compared voting record percentages among members of congress.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/cq-assets/cqmultimedia/flash/votestudy/index.html

John McCain supported president Bush 90 percent of the time.  Barack Obama supported president Bush 40 percent of the time.



ManusJustus said:
MrBubbles said: 

Her and McCain are pretty similar.  So why do you not like McCain and like her?

 

McCain is a hypocrite.  I dont know if you remember McCain before his most recent run for president, but he used to be seen an independent thinking, moderate leaning Republican.  When McCain decided that he would run for president in 2008, the days of independent thinking were over as John McCain became an identical puppet of Bush, hoping to gain the more conservative votes that he lost in his previous bid.

Bigjoin and others,

No, I didnt hear this from Obama last night, unlike some of you I have the ability to think for myself.  Obama's speech actually came from political scientists who compared voting record percentages among members of congress.

http://www.cqpolitics.com/cq-assets/cqmultimedia/flash/votestudy/index.html

John McCain supported president Bush 90 percent of the time.  Barack Obama supported president Bush 40 percent of the time.

But Obama voted along party line 96% of the time while McCain voted along party lines 81% of the time ... Does this make Obama a mindless puppet for the Democrats?

Personally, I think it is a little more terrifying that Obama only supported Bush 40% of the time ... About 99% of legislation and executive decisions in most terms of most governments are not "Sexy" or "Important" decisions and they're (more or less) fairly common sense decisions that need to be made. Generally speaking, even the worst presidents get most of these decisions correct. At 40% of support for Bush, Obama is at the more extreme side of the Democratic party and seems to be voting against anything that is associated with Bush regardless of whether it has any merit or not.