| Simulacrum said: ...Adventure-action.... |
I wouldn't consider any Turn Based rpg to have much action. As for Adventuring, how much do you have that in pokemon? I would say Final Fantasy XII is more of an Action-Adventure than Pokemon. Pokemon seems to be much more traditional.
Define "well."
If you look at the number of RPGs out there and their sales, Pokemon/DQ/FF are the outliers, not the medians.
| Words Of Wisdom said: Define "well." If you look at the number of RPGs out there and their sales, Pokemon/DQ/FF are the outliers, not the medians. |
He only wants to consider a JRPG successful if it sells a million copies or more. However, a game being successful is determined by the amount of profit made, not number of copies sold
In a market of non-differentiated products, the company with the most clout brought to bear wins. That's exactly what happens in the JRPG market. Most are nearly or entirely identical, meaning that the ones that stand out due to reputation or excessive advertising (such as Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest) end up dominating the market. I can't count how many JRPGs there are out there that can be summed up as "Dragon Quest clone". They were everywhere on Famicom and Super Famicom, though the copycats have stopped being so prevalent over the last decade or so.
If any RPG developer hopes to overcome Square-Enix, they need to do something that no RPG developer (save perhaps the Pokemon developer) has the guts to do: target non-RPG players. Ideally, by removing elements that make most not want to play RPGs while adding elements that RPGs lack which would make them more appealing to non-players and current players alike. As long as the genre remains as it is, its market won't expand and companies won't be able to defeat the industry juggernauts.
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| Sky Render said: In a market of non-differentiated products, the company with the most clout brought to bear wins. That's exactly what happens in the JRPG market. Most are nearly or entirely identical, meaning that the ones that stand out due to reputation or excessive advertising (such as Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest) end up dominating the market. I can't count how many JRPGs there are out there that can be summed up as "Dragon Quest clone". They were everywhere on Famicom and Super Famicom, though the copycats have stopped being so prevalent over the last decade or so. If any RPG developer hopes to overcome Square-Enix, they need to do something that no RPG developer (save perhaps the Pokemon developer) has the guts to do: target non-RPG players. Ideally, by removing elements that make most not want to play RPGs while adding elements that RPGs lack which would make them more appealing to non-players and current players alike. As long as the genre remains as it is, its market won't expand and companies won't be able to defeat the industry juggernauts. |
That was done before by a JRPG known as Chrono Trigger.
| sc94597 said: Pokemon sales>Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest To answer you question; Jrpgs are pretty niche outside of Japan. I guess most Westerners have different tastes than the Japanese. Same reason FPS don't sell to well in Japan. |
JRPGs also seem to be niche in JP. No none S-E effort has broken a mil in JP that I know of (except pokemon)
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sc94597 said:
I wouldn't consider any Turn Based rpg to have much action. As for Adventuring, how much do you have that in pokemon? I would say Final Fantasy XII is more of an Action-Adventure than Pokemon. Pokemon seems to be much more traditional.
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...WELLLL.....Surely....Argh....WHEN COMPARED TO FINAL FANTASY....Story......No feelings.....all the same...
ITS ADVENTURE-PUZZLE GAME!!!
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Pristine20 said:
JRPGs also seem to be niche in JP. No none S-E effort has broken a mil in JP that I know of (except pokemon)
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Pokemon is non SE. 
I would just like to ask how many games do break a million in Japan alone in any genre? Yeah not many. A million imo isn't the bar for a game to be a success. Especially in one region, and even more so for Japan.
| Sky Render said: In a market of non-differentiated products, the company with the most clout brought to bear wins. That's exactly what happens in the JRPG market. Most are nearly or entirely identical, meaning that the ones that stand out due to reputation or excessive advertising (such as Final Fantasy and Dragon Quest) end up dominating the market. I can't count how many JRPGs there are out there that can be summed up as "Dragon Quest clone". They were everywhere on Famicom and Super Famicom, though the copycats have stopped being so prevalent over the last decade or so. |
What are you talking about?
The video game market is entirely differenciated and brand name is part of that differenciation.
Please, go back to your Marketing course textbook and reread that chapter with emphasis on Porter's theories.
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