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Dude's serving the country for 13 years and this is how they thanked him. Ouch!

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Name on government watch list threatens pilot's career

From Jeanne Meserve
CNN Homeland Security Correspondent

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- For Erich Scherfen, being on a government terror watch list isn't just a matter of inconvenience. It could end his career.

Erich Scherfen served 13 years in the military, including flying National Guard helicopters.

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Scherfen served in the U.S. military for 13 years, as an Army infantryman in the first Gulf War and then as a helicopter pilot in the National Guard. After receiving an honorable discharge, he was hired as a pilot by Colgan Air Inc., a regional airline operating in the Northeast and Texas.

In April, Colgan informed Scherfen that he was on a government list and would be suspended from his job. He was told he faced termination on September 1 unless he was able to clear his name.

But Scherfen, of Schuylkill Haven, Pennsylvania, has been unable to do so and said he fears that it could mean he has no future as a pilot.

"My entire career depends on me getting off this list," he said. "I probably won't be able to get a job anywhere else in the world having this mark that I'm on this list."

Witold Walczak, an American Civil Liberties Union attorney representing Scherfen and his wife in a lawsuit, calls the government actions "unfair" and "unjust."

"It is quite clear when the government does something that takes away not just your job but your occupation, your career, they have to provide you with some means to clear your name," Walczak said.

The lawsuit, filed this week in federal court in Pennsylvania, asks the U.S. government to remove Scherfen and his wife, Rubina Tareen, from any watch lists or databases that inhibit their travel.

Scherfen is a convert to Islam. His wife emigrated from Pakistan when she was 17 and is now a U.S. citizen. She runs a small business selling books and DVDs about Islam, publications she describes as nonpolitical. Watch the couple speculate on why they're listed »

Scherfen and Tareen have both been stopped when traveling and told by security personnel that they are on "a list." Scherfen calls it "embarrassing."

Tareen said she thinks they may be on a watch list because of their Muslim faith and her Pakistani heritage. The two said they are not terrorists and don't associate with people who are.

"I have no idea why I am on the list, and they're not telling officially that I'm even on the list," Scherfen said. iReport.com: Are you on the list?

In a statement, the U.S. Justice Department said it will not confirm or deny that the couple's names are on a watch list for national security and privacy reasons.

In May, Scherfen and his wife wrote to the Department of Homeland Security, asking for help with their case. The department referred them to the Transportation Security Administration's Traveler Redress Inquiry Program. This week, they received a number to track their case, but their complaint has not been addressed.

A TSA spokeswoman said the agency is seeking "a meaningful resolution" to the couple's case but said there is no timetable for doing so.

Meanwhile, a federal judge has the case under review. He asked that Colgan move Scherfen's termination date to October 1. The airline has done so, allowing more time for a possible resolution.

"Unfortunately, it is a problem that is shared by countless individuals who have no connection to terrorism, have no connection to crime and don't belong on this list," said Walczak, the ACLU lawyer.

Walczak acknowledged the need for the government to protect the country from threats with a watch list but said, "The problem with what the government is doing is that they really don't care about innocent casualties."

Scherfen said the pain of his situation is accentuated by the fact that he spent 13 years in uniform protecting the country.

"We served honorably," he said. "We served in a war. And they're thumbing their noses at us, basically, and that makes me feel ... really sad about this situation."



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MrBubbles said:
misleading and incorrect title

 

How is it misleading?



people arent put on the watch list for being muslim.  there are a number of innapropriate situations of people being put on the list, such as writing critical articles of the TSA but there are 4 or 5 mil muslims in the US and only 1mil names on the watch list.



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MrBubbles said:
people arent put on the watch list for being muslim.

 

The article seems to imply so. There was no other reason that he could have been on "the list".



Galaki said:
MrBubbles said:
people arent put on the watch list for being muslim.

 

The article seems to imply so. There was no other reason that he could have been on "the list".

 

...the article is their own speculation...  you dont have information from the TSA about why they are on the list.   and its not like they would admit to something innapropriate on their part that could have gotten them on the watch list.   an even more likely reason i could see, just from looking at the article, is that her some of her books and dvds were probably deemed to promote  radical ideology.   but as the exact reason, its definately not because they are muslims.



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he is grown man he could be terrorist but why is 7 year old in the terror list?

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/26265589.html?location_refer=Politically%20Connected%20Box:Local%20+%20Metro



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Cougarman said:
he is grown man he could be terrorist but why is 7 year old in the terror list?

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/senate/26265589.html?location_refer=Politically%20Connected%20Box:Local%20+%20Metro

 

because he has the same name as someone else.   and my understanding is that the database now includes birth dates, so he shouldnt have any more issues.



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reminds me of the Cat Stevens debacle a few years back lol



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