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the arcade is just a gimped sku microsoft uses to TRY to make money. no one buys them, everyone buys the premium or elite. if they lower the price of that to 199, then we have a problem sony. but if sony gives their two sku's a 100 dollar price cut, then xbox 360 is officially out of the race and sony could go on and focus on beating nintendo. ps3 outsells 360 even when it has a $100 price disadvantage against the xbox 360 premium, so if sony makes the 80gb $300, its all over for microsoft.



 

 

 

 

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I don't think it will, just because they haven't already done it.I mean, the ps3 cost more but it's still keeping up with 360, so there brand means something.



 

deathgod33 said:
the arcade is just a gimped sku microsoft uses to TRY to make money. no one buys them, everyone buys the premium or elite. if they lower the price of that to 199, then WE have a problem sony. but if sony gives their two sku's a 100 dollar price cut, then xbox 360 is officially out of the race and sony could go on and focus on beating nintendo. ps3 outsells 360 even when it has a $100 price disadvantage against the xbox 360 premium, so if sony makes the 80gb $300, its all over for microsoft.

 

HUH?!?!



Price does indeed matter, and we see the proof every single week that we view the charts. Last week the PS2 accounted for 18% of console sales in North America. There is also very little doubt that it is the price that is moving that console not a distinct quality advantage. Basically consumers are opting to forgo purchasing a current generation console in favor of over a hundred dollars in savings.

Not only do we have this proof, but the price cuts in this current generation have also lead to higher console sales once they pass. I would not use the clearance 360 sale as any indicator. Given how far the charts were off last month it is within the realm of reason to believe the predictions were taking into account more units in the channel. Which may or may not have been there. I would lean towards the units probably not having been there after all a clearance sale is about getting rid of something. Perhaps Microsoft did a better job of clearing the channel leading up to their announcement then they were given credit for. We have to remember, because a unit has been sold to the retailer does not tell us what model it is, or if the retailer is even permitted to sell said unit until a certain date.

I think too many members of these forums are inured to the cost of hardware, and it is understandable to some extent. After all how often do we think of starving Ethiopians when we are eating a steak, or how often do we think of people in wheel chairs when we go about our lives walking. I think its a very logical thing to think of oneself as the norm rather then the exception. When in fact those that can spend three hundred, four hundred, five hundred, or even six hundred dollars on a videogame console are probably the exception rather then the rule.

When posters say mainstream they are talking about what the majority of people will buy into. What the majority of people would be able to afford. I think if more people here cut their monthly wage in half they would probably start to develop a more profound appreciation of what kind of motivation price has on less fortunate people. I know a great many people that enjoy gaming, but simply cannot afford to buy a current generation console. So they make due with older machines, or buy used machines. Then they tend to rent rather then buy, or they buy out of the discount rack.

When the price gets down to two hundred dollars or lower then for them the time does seem to be right. Two hundred dollars in no small purchase for them, but with a little effort they can afford to spend that kind of money on a gaming console.

Will this help to cement the 360 probably, and more to the point it probably is not the last time the 360 will see a price cut. Eventually perhaps next year the price of the arcade may even be on par with the PS2. At which point even the die hard Sony or Nintendo loyalists will be very tempted.



Price is and always be the main factor for any purchase. Other factors contribute but price above all is the greatest. A $199 price will increase sales especially during the hoilday season, you could see as large as a 2:1 ratio if Sony doesn't lower their price.



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It'll actually cement its place in 3rd for this console race.

If it can't seriously damage (and I mean seriously) the PS3's momentum with a 199 price point, then its screwed, there is nothing left it can do. The PS3 still has a very long way to go to 199, and its all uphill sales from there.

I doubt it will do enough damage to the PS3 to really make any difference. Just look at Europe where the 360 is cheaper than the Wii and it sells pretty horribly considering that.

All this will do is delay the inevitable overtaking of the 360 by the PS3.



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Finally the voice of reason, good job Dodece at explaining about how much of an effect the 360 price cut will have, i come from a small town where the majority of the people here have low incomes. I know a lot of people that want a 360 but just cant afford one, and with this price cut most of them are goina be able to afford it. Hell it took me half a year to save up for a 360!!! (a year ago)



No clue.

I still think PS3 will win 2nd.

$199 Xbox is damn interesting though. Practically impulse by level for me.

When comparing the fact that they are going to share most of the same games and the cheapest i can find a PS3 is a 350...

only thing keeping me from getting a 360 ahead of the PS3 is Valkiria Chronicles.



Dodece said:
Price does indeed matter, and we see the proof every single week that we view the charts. Last week the PS2 accounted for 18% of console sales in North America. There is also very little doubt that it is the price that is moving that console not a distinct quality advantage. Basically consumers are opting to forgo purchasing a current generation console in favor of over a hundred dollars in savings.

Not only do we have this proof, but the price cuts in this current generation have also lead to higher console sales once they pass. I would not use the clearance 360 sale as any indicator. Given how far the charts were off last month it is within the realm of reason to believe the predictions were taking into account more units in the channel. Which may or may not have been there. I would lean towards the units probably not having been there after all a clearance sale is about getting rid of something. Perhaps Microsoft did a better job of clearing the channel leading up to their announcement then they were given credit for. We have to remember, because a unit has been sold to the retailer does not tell us what model it is, or if the retailer is even permitted to sell said unit until a certain date.

I think too many members of these forums are inured to the cost of hardware, and it is understandable to some extent. After all how often do we think of starving Ethiopians when we are eating a steak, or how often do we think of people in wheel chairs when we go about our lives walking. I think its a very logical thing to think of oneself as the norm rather then the exception. When in fact those that can spend three hundred, four hundred, five hundred, or even six hundred dollars on a videogame console are probably the exception rather then the rule.

When posters say mainstream they are talking about what the majority of people will buy into. What the majority of people would be able to afford. I think if more people here cut their monthly wage in half they would probably start to develop a more profound appreciation of what kind of motivation price has on less fortunate people. I know a great many people that enjoy gaming, but simply cannot afford to buy a current generation console. So they make due with older machines, or buy used machines. Then they tend to rent rather then buy, or they buy out of the discount rack.

When the price gets down to two hundred dollars or lower then for them the time does seem to be right. Two hundred dollars in no small purchase for them, but with a little effort they can afford to spend that kind of money on a gaming console.

Will this help to cement the 360 probably, and more to the point it probably is not the last time the 360 will see a price cut. Eventually perhaps next year the price of the arcade may even be on par with the PS2. At which point even the die hard Sony or Nintendo loyalists will be very tempted.

Well said!

 



Tease.

Sony is in serious trouble here.