By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - General - Obama picks VP....

akuma587 said:
halogamer1989 said:
@akuma It could be a problem though. As a Republican it would be a problem I would like but Biden = experience and longtime DC insider. The GOP will undoubtedly show to great effect that Obama just needed what he is fighting against to equate his coin of change.

 

I agree, but any choice can backfire.  I just think this has a lower chance than most choices of backfiring.  That being said you probably won't have people getting that excited about it either.  But at least it brings more experience to Obama's corner, something many, even Democrats, have criticized him for.  There is a decent chance it will help with independents, but generally VP choices affect very little.

Yea, but now Obama has someone that wants to continue the war...which may change some peoples minds.

 

 



Around the Network

Am I the only one who read it as Osama/Bin Laden? :/ I was like wtf! Then I checked again... Too late to be up reading stuff. :P



Obliterator1700 said:
akuma587 said:
halogamer1989 said:
@akuma It could be a problem though. As a Republican it would be a problem I would like but Biden = experience and longtime DC insider. The GOP will undoubtedly show to great effect that Obama just needed what he is fighting against to equate his coin of change.

 

I agree, but any choice can backfire.  I just think this has a lower chance than most choices of backfiring.  That being said you probably won't have people getting that excited about it either.  But at least it brings more experience to Obama's corner, something many, even Democrats, have criticized him for.  There is a decent chance it will help with independents, but generally VP choices affect very little.

Yea, but now Obama has someone that wants to continue the war...which may change some peoples minds.

 

 

Its pretty inconceivable that Obama would choose to prolong the war when over 80% of the Democratic party wants it to end it as quickly as possible.  A candidate rarely lets his vice president change one of his core policies, especially to one not held by the rest of his party.  

George Bush is an exception, but that is just because he was surrounded by people who were much smarter than him, like Dick Cheney and Karl Rove.  Karl Rove, for instance, had a lot to do with Bush supporting the gay marriage amendment because he knew it would gratify the evangelical base.  It was pretty much destined for failure even among Republicans who were fine with letting states decide the issue on their own.

 



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

akuma587 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
akuma587 said:
halogamer1989 said:
@akuma It could be a problem though. As a Republican it would be a problem I would like but Biden = experience and longtime DC insider. The GOP will undoubtedly show to great effect that Obama just needed what he is fighting against to equate his coin of change.

 

I agree, but any choice can backfire.  I just think this has a lower chance than most choices of backfiring.  That being said you probably won't have people getting that excited about it either.  But at least it brings more experience to Obama's corner, something many, even Democrats, have criticized him for.  There is a decent chance it will help with independents, but generally VP choices affect very little.

Yea, but now Obama has someone that wants to continue the war...which may change some peoples minds.

 

 

Its pretty inconceivable that Obama would choose to prolong the war when over 80% of the Democratic party wants it to end it as quickly as possible.  A candidate rarely lets his vice president change one of his core policies, especially to one not held by the rest of his party.  

George Bush is an exception, but that is just because he was surrounded by people who were much smarter than him, like Dick Cheney and Karl Rove.  Karl Rove, for instance, had a lot to do with Bush supporting the gay marriage amendment because he knew it would gratify the evangelical base.  It was pretty much destined for failure even among Republicans who were fine with letting states decide the issue on their own.

 

That made my day...

 

 



akuma587 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
akuma587 said:
halogamer1989 said:
@akuma It could be a problem though. As a Republican it would be a problem I would like but Biden = experience and longtime DC insider. The GOP will undoubtedly show to great effect that Obama just needed what he is fighting against to equate his coin of change.

 

I agree, but any choice can backfire.  I just think this has a lower chance than most choices of backfiring.  That being said you probably won't have people getting that excited about it either.  But at least it brings more experience to Obama's corner, something many, even Democrats, have criticized him for.  There is a decent chance it will help with independents, but generally VP choices affect very little.

Yea, but now Obama has someone that wants to continue the war...which may change some peoples minds.

 

 

Its pretty inconceivable that Obama would choose to prolong the war when over 80% of the Democratic party wants it to end it as quickly as possible.  A candidate rarely lets his vice president change one of his core policies, especially to one not held by the rest of his party.  

George Bush is an exception, but that is just because he was surrounded by people who were much smarter than him, like Dick Cheney and Karl Rove.  Karl Rove, for instance, had a lot to do with Bush supporting the gay marriage amendment because he knew it would gratify the evangelical base.  It was pretty much destined for failure even among Republicans who were fine with letting states decide the issue on their own.

 

That made my day...

 

 



Around the Network

Ugh... i hope Romney isn't McCains VP.

I'd be afraid he'd die and Romney would become president.



akuma587 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
akuma587 said:
halogamer1989 said:
@akuma It could be a problem though. As a Republican it would be a problem I would like but Biden = experience and longtime DC insider. The GOP will undoubtedly show to great effect that Obama just needed what he is fighting against to equate his coin of change.

 

I agree, but any choice can backfire. I just think this has a lower chance than most choices of backfiring. That being said you probably won't have people getting that excited about it either. But at least it brings more experience to Obama's corner, something many, even Democrats, have criticized him for. There is a decent chance it will help with independents, but generally VP choices affect very little.

Yea, but now Obama has someone that wants to continue the war...which may change some peoples minds.

 

 

Its pretty inconceivable that Obama would choose to prolong the war when over 80% of the Democratic party wants it to end it as quickly as possible. A candidate rarely lets his vice president change one of his core policies, especially to one not held by the rest of his party.

George Bush is an exception, but that is just because he was surrounded by people who were much smarter than him, like Dick Cheney and Karl Rove. Karl Rove, for instance, had a lot to do with Bush supporting the gay marriage amendment because he knew it would gratify the evangelical base. It was pretty much destined for failure even among Republicans who were fine with letting states decide the issue on their own.

 

Iraq is a non issue anyway.

Because of how well everything is going the current plan is to have all troops pulled out by 2011.

I highly doubt Obama can speed that up. Doing so would probably be irresponsible.



This is a potentially wise choice for Obama. Biden is one of the most experienced and knowledgable senators in regards to foreign relations. I would list him with Chriss Dodd, Chuck Hagel and Richard Luger as the most knowledgable senators on foreign relations. Biden is also a white Catholic, and that is a bloc Obama should attempt to improve his popularity with. This choice does have some risk. Biden is infamous for making the occasional gaffe, and he could damage the ticket if he does not mind what he says.



Good choice - Biden is old and white, and so incorporates McCain's appeal.



Aurally examine my music!

Wear gaudy colours or avoid display. It's all the same.

Be warned, I will use walls of polysyllables and complex clauses as a defence against lucid argument.

Wand to read a creepy thread?

akuma587 said:
halogamer1989 said:
@akuma It could be a problem though. As a Republican it would be a problem I would like but Biden = experience and longtime DC insider. The GOP will undoubtedly show to great effect that Obama just needed what he is fighting against to equate his coin of change.

 

I agree, but any choice can backfire.  I just think this has a lower chance than most choices of backfiring.  That being said you probably won't have people getting that excited about it either.  But at least it brings more experience to Obama's corner, something many, even Democrats, have criticized him for.  There is a decent chance it will help with independents, but generally VP choices affect very little.

@Bolded,

QFT, I absolutely agree.

@The rest,

This is pretty much where I stand on the pick, he isn't going to change the race really.  With that said he does please some of the folks who wanted to see Obama go a bit more negative (Biden has some history of being fiesty) to "fight back", but I think that might be risky given his "above the fray" comments (which is a good thing imo).

 



To Each Man, Responsibility