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megaman79 on 21 August 2008
luinil said:
McCain's stance on Iran is what any reasonable person's stance should be. They are a grave threat to the stability of the region and will likely cause another war with all their saber-rattling and threats. You have to live in a freaking bubble to think that you can avoid war. It is inevitable, though that is regrettable.

 

What's regrettable is that you believe it is inevitable

 



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luinil on 21 August 2008

Well, I understand humans to a point. People want stuff. Often times it belongs to someone else. When those people try to take things from others, fights start. This is very basic and will always happen. No stopping human nature bub.



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PS360ForTheWin on 21 August 2008

from what i know of there policies, Obama would be far better than Bush or Mccain



luinil on 21 August 2008
PS360ForTheWin said:
from what i know of there policies, Obama would be far better than Bush or Mccain

In what ways would you think he would be far better? Can you name what makes his policies better? I want to know why you think that.



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Sansui on 21 August 2008
megaman79 said:
luinil said:
McCain's stance on Iran is what any reasonable person's stance should be. They are a grave threat to the stability of the region and will likely cause another war with all their saber-rattling and threats. You have to live in a freaking bubble to think that you can avoid war. It is inevitable, though that is regrettable.

 

What's regrettable is that you believe it is inevitable

 

 

Excellent, excellent observation.

Iran's 'grave threat' in that regions seems all the 'graver' when the Republican media keeps saying it.  But you know, Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction right?  I mean, the Republicans told us so.  So we HAD to take down Iraq too right? It was inevitable?

Don't get me wrong, Saddamn was an evil, horrible man, but we seriously screwed the pooch by invading Iraq.  I'm not letting the Republicans trick me into voting out of fear again.  They have an excellent track record of being completely wrong.
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MrBubbles on 21 August 2008
Sansui said:
megaman79 said:
luinil said:
McCain's stance on Iran is what any reasonable person's stance should be. They are a grave threat to the stability of the region and will likely cause another war with all their saber-rattling and threats. You have to live in a freaking bubble to think that you can avoid war. It is inevitable, though that is regrettable.

 

What's regrettable is that you believe it is inevitable

 

 

Excellent, excellent observation.

Iran's 'grave threat' in that regions seems all the 'graver' when the Republican media keeps saying it.  But you know, Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction right?  I mean, the Republicans told us so.  So we HAD to take down Iraq too right? It was inevitable?

Don't get me wrong, Saddamn was an evil, horrible man, but we seriously screwed the pooch by invading Iraq.  I'm not letting the Republicans trick me into voting out of fear again.  They have an excellent track record of being completely wrong.

 

If your congress pledged to create a chaotic world...would you think they were dangerous?



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Sansui on 21 August 2008
luinil said:
PS360ForTheWin said:
from what i know of there policies, Obama would be far better than Bush or Mccain

In what ways would you think he would be far better? Can you name what makes his policies better? I want to know why you think that.

 

What I would like is for those who want to vote for McCain to tell me what they think makes McCain or his policies better.  Can you tell me why you think John McCain would make a better president?
Sansui on 21 August 2008
MrBubbles said:
Sansui said:
megaman79 said:
luinil said:
McCain's stance on Iran is what any reasonable person's stance should be. They are a grave threat to the stability of the region and will likely cause another war with all their saber-rattling and threats. You have to live in a freaking bubble to think that you can avoid war. It is inevitable, though that is regrettable.

 

What's regrettable is that you believe it is inevitable

 

 

Excellent, excellent observation.

Iran's 'grave threat' in that regions seems all the 'graver' when the Republican media keeps saying it.  But you know, Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction right?  I mean, the Republicans told us so.  So we HAD to take down Iraq too right? It was inevitable?

Don't get me wrong, Saddamn was an evil, horrible man, but we seriously screwed the pooch by invading Iraq.  I'm not letting the Republicans trick me into voting out of fear again.  They have an excellent track record of being completely wrong.

 

If your congress pledged to create a chaotic world...would you think they were dangerous?

Contribute some real discussion and or arguments or stop making cryptic statements.

 
konnichiwa on 21 August 2008
megaman79 said:
Timmah! said:
megaman79 said:
Tigawoods said:

Lots of things wrong with this thread.

1. Are we surprised that a left wing news channel wrote a smear piece with no factual evidence?

2. Obama is closer to Bush. McCain is closer to Hillary. Bill Clinton is closer to Heffner :P

3. @Megaman Which million ppl are you talking about? Whether or not you agree with the wars and the WMD fiasco the Taliban and Hussein still committed genocide. Or are you pulling these one million ppl out of your ass?

 

http://www.iraqbodycount.org/

 

Its not difficult. If you bothered to question what people tell you maybe you will learn something.

But there are two problems with going into Iraq that the UN did not agree with, prior to the lies from Powell.

1. You do not enter another country unless there is an imminent threat to neighbouring states. This was not the case

2. The other reason, demonstrated in the first Gulf war, was that internal security was threatened. Human rights was the reason. But there was no evidence that Saddam was going to kill or hurt his own people.

Megaman79, are you joking, or can you not read numbers??? The site that YOU just linked to puts the total at 86,661 - 94,557 civilian deaths, and many of those are most likely killed by terrorists or insurgents. You're only about 910,000 off, where are the rest of the 'Million' you stated??

 

Your right.

http://www.opinion.co.uk/Newsroom_details.aspx?NewsId=78

see here or here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_conflict_in_Iraq_since_2003

 

 

More than a million wow....  Now I am getting to understand why so many are saying the war in Vietnam is like in Iraq.

 






luinil on 21 August 2008
Sansui said:
luinil said:
PS360ForTheWin said:
from what i know of there policies, Obama would be far better than Bush or Mccain

In what ways would you think he would be far better? Can you name what makes his policies better? I want to know why you think that.

 

What I would like is for those who want to vote for McCain to tell me what they think makes McCain or his policies better.  Can you tell me why you think John McCain would make a better president?

Sure, McCain isn't a Communist/Socialist. McCain didn't vote to support infanticide. McCain has more knowledge of the works of the world's politics. He understands Russia better. He will cut my taxes which will allow me to spend more and give more to charity. He will appoint Originalist Justices to the Supreme court (at least I hope). He is not friends with Bill Ayers.



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