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kushal3337@wii said:

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Russia invades Georgia and President Bush goes on vacation. Our president has spent one-third of his entire two terms in office either at Camp David, Maryland, or at Crawford, Texas, on vacation.

His time away from the Oval Office included the month leading up to 9/11, when there were signs Osama bin Laden was planning to attack America, and the time Hurricane Katrina destroyed the city of New Orleans.

Sen. John McCain takes weekends off and limits his campaign events to one a day. He made an exception for the religious forum on Saturday at Saddleback Church in Southern California.

I think he made a big mistake. When he was invited last spring to attend a discussion of the role of faith in his life with Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, at Messiah College in Pennsylvania, McCain didn't bother to show up. Now I know why.

It occurs to me that John McCain is as intellectually shallow as our current president. When asked what his Christian faith means to him, his answer was a one-liner. "It means I'm saved and forgiven." Great scholars have wrestled with the meaning of faith for centuries. McCain then retold a story we've all heard a hundred times about a guard in Vietnam drawing a cross in the sand.

Asked about his greatest moral failure, he cited his first marriage, which ended in divorce. While saying it was his greatest moral failing, he offered nothing in the way of explanation. Why not?


He was asked "if evil exists." His response was to repeat for the umpteenth time that Osama bin Laden is a bad man and he will pursue him to "the gates of hell." That was it.

He was asked to define rich. After trying to dodge the question -- his wife is worth a reported $100 million -- he finally said he thought an income of $5 million was rich.

One after another, McCain's answers were shallow, simplistic, and trite. He showed the same intellectual curiosity that George Bush has -- virtually none.

Where are John McCain's writings exploring the vexing moral issues of our time? Where are his position papers setting forth his careful consideration of foreign policy, the welfare state, education, America's moral responsibility in the world, etc., etc., etc.?

John McCain graduated 894th in a class of 899 at the Naval Academy at Annapolis. His father and grandfather were four star admirals in the Navy. Some have suggested that might have played a role in McCain being admitted. His academic record was awful. And it shows over and over again whenever McCain is called upon to think on his feet.

He no longer allows reporters unfettered access to him aboard the "Straight Talk Express" for a reason. He simply makes too many mistakes. Unless he's reciting talking points or reading from notes or a TelePrompTer, John McCain is lost. He can drop bon mots at a bowling alley or diner -- short glib responses that get a chuckle, but beyond that McCain gets in over his head very quickly.

I am sick and tired of the president of the United States embarrassing me. The world we live in is too complex to entrust it to someone else whose idea of intellectual curiosity and grasp of foreign policy issues is to tell us he can look into Vladimir Putin's eyes and see into his soul.

George Bush's record as a student, military man, businessman and leader of the free world is one of constant failure. And the part that troubles me most is he seems content with himself.

He will leave office with the country $10 trillion in debt, fighting two wars, our international reputation in shambles, our government cloaked in secrecy and suspicion that his entire presidency has been a litany of broken laws and promises, our citizens' faith in our own country ripped to shreds. Yet Bush goes bumbling along, grinning and spewing moronic one-liners, as though nobody understands what a colossal failure he has been.

I fear to the depth of my being that John McCain is just like him.

 

 Alright, the game is over, we know it's you, Barack.



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kushal3337@wii said:

NEW YORK (CNN) -- Russia invades Georgia and President Bush goes on vacation. Our president has spent one-third of his entire two terms in office either at Camp David, Maryland, or at Crawford, Texas, on vacation.

His time away from the Oval Office included the month leading up to 9/11, when there were signs Osama bin Laden was planning to attack America, and the time Hurricane Katrina destroyed the city of New Orleans.

Sen. John McCain takes weekends off and limits his campaign events to one a day. He made an exception for the religious forum on Saturday at Saddleback Church in Southern California.

I think he made a big mistake. When he was invited last spring to attend a discussion of the role of faith in his life with Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, at Messiah College in Pennsylvania, McCain didn't bother to show up. Now I know why.

It occurs to me that John McCain is as intellectually shallow as our current president. When asked what his Christian faith means to him, his answer was a one-liner. "It means I'm saved and forgiven." Great scholars have wrestled with the meaning of faith for centuries. McCain then retold a story we've all heard a hundred times about a guard in Vietnam drawing a cross in the sand.

Asked about his greatest moral failure, he cited his first marriage, which ended in divorce. While saying it was his greatest moral failing, he offered nothing in the way of explanation. Why not?


He was asked "if evil exists." His response was to repeat for the umpteenth time that Osama bin Laden is a bad man and he will pursue him to "the gates of hell." That was it.

He was asked to define rich. After trying to dodge the question -- his wife is worth a reported $100 million -- he finally said he thought an income of $5 million was rich.

One after another, McCain's answers were shallow, simplistic, and trite. He showed the same intellectual curiosity that George Bush has -- virtually none.

Where are John McCain's writings exploring the vexing moral issues of our time? Where are his position papers setting forth his careful consideration of foreign policy, the welfare state, education, America's moral responsibility in the world, etc., etc., etc.?

John McCain graduated 894th in a class of 899 at the Naval Academy at Annapolis. His father and grandfather were four star admirals in the Navy. Some have suggested that might have played a role in McCain being admitted. His academic record was awful. And it shows over and over again whenever McCain is called upon to think on his feet.

He no longer allows reporters unfettered access to him aboard the "Straight Talk Express" for a reason. He simply makes too many mistakes. Unless he's reciting talking points or reading from notes or a TelePrompTer, John McCain is lost. He can drop bon mots at a bowling alley or diner -- short glib responses that get a chuckle, but beyond that McCain gets in over his head very quickly.

I am sick and tired of the president of the United States embarrassing me. The world we live in is too complex to entrust it to someone else whose idea of intellectual curiosity and grasp of foreign policy issues is to tell us he can look into Vladimir Putin's eyes and see into his soul.

George Bush's record as a student, military man, businessman and leader of the free world is one of constant failure. And the part that troubles me most is he seems content with himself.

He will leave office with the country $10 trillion in debt, fighting two wars, our international reputation in shambles, our government cloaked in secrecy and suspicion that his entire presidency has been a litany of broken laws and promises, our citizens' faith in our own country ripped to shreds. Yet Bush goes bumbling along, grinning and spewing moronic one-liners, as though nobody understands what a colossal failure he has been.

I fear to the depth of my being that John McCain is just like him.

Wow, what a giant waste of my time. I want those three minutes back.

PS. I'd like a link to that piece of shit to see if CNN really published that or not.




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Kasz216 said:

Obama has been closer to Bush then McCain lately.

It's really why the whole system is screwed up.

I mean Obama even wants to expand Bush's faith based funding plan.

Churches don't need government money.

Also, talking about taking time off seems a little silly when both candidates are taking of like a year and a half from their actual jobs to run for president.

This is 2008. The President could be sunning himself on a fucking mountaintop in the Andes and he'd still have access to everything he needed to work.

That vacation argument is tired and stale. Let it go. He's followed everywhere by an army of advisors and has access to telephones and internet where ever he may spend his time.

 




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WOW. Someone please tell me that CNN didn't actually publish that as news. WHat ever happened to journalistic integrity.



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The Ghost of RubangB said:
What's one day's results within the margin of error?

Obama's been consistently leading McCain for almost a year.

I'm not worried about it.

I smell an electoral landslide.

I don't think it will be a landslide, though Obama's campaign is running a hell of a lot more smoothly than McCain's.

Anyway, this race has yet to begin in earnest. Let's wait until the conventions and veep noms.

Who else thinks it would be fucking hilarious if McCain nominated Lieberman? I'm no fan of Lieberman but a giant middle finger at the card-carrying GOP establishment would absolutely kill me.

 




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rocketpig said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
What's one day's results within the margin of error?

Obama's been consistently leading McCain for almost a year.

I'm not worried about it.

I smell an electoral landslide.

I don't think it will be a landslide, though Obama's campaign is running a hell of a lot more smoothly than McCain's.

Anyway, this race has yet to begin in earnest. Let's wait until the conventions and veep noms.

Who else thinks it would be fucking hilarious if McCain nominated Lieberman? I'm no fan of Lieberman but a giant middle finger at the card-carrying GOP establishment would absolutely kill me.

 

Hah if only...  That would be the best

 



senseinobaka said:
WOW. Someone please tell me that CNN didn't actually publish that as news. WHat ever happened to journalistic integrity.

It's all about the money media wise.

It's going to be worth a lot more media wise to build up Obama... then tear him down once he becomes president then it would with McCain... who is basically all out there and you already know everything about him cause he's been a senator forever and has already run for president once.

 



rocketpig said:

Wow, what a giant waste of my time. I want those three minutes back.

PS. I'd like a link to that piece of shit to see if CNN really published that or not.

 

Jack Cafferty opinion piece.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/08/18/cafferty.mccain/index.html



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Kasz216 said:
rocketpig said:
The Ghost of RubangB said:
What's one day's results within the margin of error?

Obama's been consistently leading McCain for almost a year.

I'm not worried about it.

I smell an electoral landslide.

I don't think it will be a landslide, though Obama's campaign is running a hell of a lot more smoothly than McCain's.

Anyway, this race has yet to begin in earnest. Let's wait until the conventions and veep noms.

Who else thinks it would be fucking hilarious if McCain nominated Lieberman? I'm no fan of Lieberman but a giant middle finger at the card-carrying GOP establishment would absolutely kill me.

 

Hah if only...  That would be the best

Wouldn't it, though? It won't happen but it would pull a lot of swing votes over to McCain, that's for sure. It would also infuriate the Religious Right, which is another huge plus in my book (but probably not in McCain's).




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