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U.S. signs controversial missile defense deal with Poland

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

WARSAW, Poland - Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Polish Foreign Minister Radek Sikorski have signed a deal that will put an American missile defense base in Poland.

The agreement has infuriated Russia, which sees the U.S. missile defense system as a threat.

The formal signing comes six days after the two countries agreed to a deal to place 10 U.S. interceptor missiles 185 kilometres from Russia's westernmost frontier.

Russia has responded with threats that Poland is leaving itself open to attack. The deal has further strained Moscow's ties with the West in the wake of its fighting with U.S. ally Georgia.

The US of A is going to end up having missles in all countries sooner or later.



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This got out a few days ago already, but it's worriesome.

On the one hand it's clearly provoking Russia despite claims of the US that they are defending themselves against the middle east. On the other hand we have Russia stating that they see poland as a thread and might respond in kind (nuclear even) proving the use of those missiles...

But the most I fear is the return of the old Soviet spirit within Russia.



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US is also involved in the North/South Korea conflicts.
They are going to end up being dragged into more wars...



If the world does ignite and threats become tangible (ie no alleged weapons of mass destruction, but army's closing in on territory's) I doubt the US will stand alone. If Russia decides to go after Poland the EU will definatly respond appropiatly. And I think that the Australians will help out in Korea (though I don't know if that will turn into a conflict any time soon, they've got a major famine going on there in the Northern nation.)



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I think its too early to get carried away. War wont benefit anyone....countries wont be eager to start conflicts.

Countries whos name isnt Russia that is....



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I'm on holidays in Poland right now, and that installation is a pretty big thing, but Russians threats well, in last 20 years they always threaten everyone in the area. The most common one is that they simply gonna cut the supplies of gas and oil, but i think we just got used to that.

Western public sees that installation as an answer to Georgia situation, when in reality plans for that system were created in middle of 1990's, and proposed officiali in 2006. Russian elites still believe that they own Central Europe, that this is their sphere of influence, sadly for them it's not anymore.

Russia cannot be ignored, because it is still an empire, controlled by FSB (Former KGB and NKWD) under quasi democratic banner. But at the moment they would be unable to do anything, in the future maybe? Only danger that countries like POland face is energetic crisis, when Gazprom asks for too much for their natural resources.

One more thing, how Purely defensive system can be controversial? this cannot be aimed at russia because the only task of those missles is to intercept rockets aimed at US soil. And poland in exchange is getting Patriot missle systems (which are also a defensive unit)



Esmoreit said:

On the one hand it's clearly provoking Russia despite claims of the US that they are defending themselves against the middle east. On the other hand we have Russia stating that they see poland as a thread and might respond in kind (nuclear even) proving the use of those missiles...

 

the missiles themselves dont bother Russia.  Its only 10 interceptors so they know it wont matter.   Russia doesnt like the relationship between Poland and the US.



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colonelstubbs said:
War wont benefit anyone

Where have you been?

 



Guys, guys, simmer down, it's really not a big deal here at the moment. We're more worried about our sport teams getting a beating at the olympics rather than the whole missile defense story.

Russia is in no place to start threatening anyone with success, they will have to let this one go. Of course they may start drastically raising oil and gas prices for Poland, or maybe just lower the total transport of those resources, but they can't do any real harm right now.

The fun will begin when Ukraine enters NATO with Georgia at the doorstep as well, that could prove to be very dangerous for local peace i presume.



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