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Reminds me of that episode of "The Simpsons" where Homer designed a car, and included everything he could think of. He wound up bankrupting his rich brother.



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This topic comes up over and over, and it always is about who the biggest loser is. I think the most intersting thing is that Nintendo has never lost money. Even when they were dead last in a gen, they still made lots of money. I read somewhere that they've only had one quarter since the NES in which they posted a loss, and (during the same time) never posted one for a fiscal year.



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Onimusha12 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
Onimusha12 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
Soriku said:
axumblade said:
Soriku said:
axumblade said:
Soriku said:
Jo21 said:

Soriku said:
puertoecuanama said:

 

 wats wrong with saying thAt? PS3 will do a lot better in the future, and it probably will pass it in software sales, but if u look at wats currently happening, then, yes u r right, the PS3 is going to have to do a lot if its to pass the Wii in software sales.


 

Sorry...but at this rate PS3 SW won't pass Wii SW. There's also bigger and better games coming out for the Wii...so the PS3 will never achieve that. I'll be surprised if it happens to outsell 360 SW.

not for 2008.

 


 

ToS: DotNW and Fatal Frame IV says hi.

Fatal Frame says "Not-so-much." Tales of Symphonia" says  "Maybe." Mario Super Sluggers says "Yes! We'll be sold out for months!"

 

Actually...Fatal Frame IV and ToS are in the "better" category.

Just because they are "better" games doesn't mean that they are going to push software. If that were the case, Zack & Wiki, Okami, and No More Heroes would have sold millions and Carnival Games/Game Party/Mario & Sonic at the Olympics wouldn't have sold nearly as much as they have.

 

I wasn't talking about SW sales...I was talking about how the games will be GOOD enough to buy.

Fatal Frame IV will sell as good as the PS2 versions...likely a bit better. ToS: DotNW will sell well for a Tales game and the Symphonia name is pretty popular in the West.

Just because they won't sell millions and millions means they're not worth buying? Then I guess the same can eb said for many other games on all systems because they're niche.

I wasn't talking about how much SW they'll sell though...

If SW sales weren't good, games wouldn't continue on for a long time period. Which would mean, it doesn't really matter if games were good to began with. Besides LBP owns all those games.

 

Really, LBP, a game of a completely different Genre altogether from any of the afore mentioned titles will own them. Apples and Oranges much? Even then, comparing games that aren't even out yet, good call.

 

That's my opinion. Tell me how my opinion for a game could be wrong?

Edit: Nice try though.

 

How about your opinion is wrong because the game isn't out yet and you haven't played it thus there is no ground for you to make an opinion.

 

Well, here's the definition for you. Maybe there is no ground for you to say anything, before you know the true defintion of the word rather then jumping to conclusions.

Opinion:A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof.

Oh and here's the definition of condifence as well, because I'm sure you'll make another conslusion, because you don't know the definition of confidence either.

Confidence:Trust or faith in a person or thing.

 

 



Obliterator1700 said:
Onimusha12 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
Onimusha12 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
Soriku said:
axumblade said:
Soriku said:
axumblade said:
Soriku said:
Jo21 said:

Soriku said:
puertoecuanama said:

 

 wats wrong with saying thAt? PS3 will do a lot better in the future, and it probably will pass it in software sales, but if u look at wats currently happening, then, yes u r right, the PS3 is going to have to do a lot if its to pass the Wii in software sales.


 

Sorry...but at this rate PS3 SW won't pass Wii SW. There's also bigger and better games coming out for the Wii...so the PS3 will never achieve that. I'll be surprised if it happens to outsell 360 SW.

not for 2008.

 


 

ToS: DotNW and Fatal Frame IV says hi.

Fatal Frame says "Not-so-much." Tales of Symphonia" says  "Maybe." Mario Super Sluggers says "Yes! We'll be sold out for months!"

 

Actually...Fatal Frame IV and ToS are in the "better" category.

Just because they are "better" games doesn't mean that they are going to push software. If that were the case, Zack & Wiki, Okami, and No More Heroes would have sold millions and Carnival Games/Game Party/Mario & Sonic at the Olympics wouldn't have sold nearly as much as they have.

 

I wasn't talking about SW sales...I was talking about how the games will be GOOD enough to buy.

Fatal Frame IV will sell as good as the PS2 versions...likely a bit better. ToS: DotNW will sell well for a Tales game and the Symphonia name is pretty popular in the West.

Just because they won't sell millions and millions means they're not worth buying? Then I guess the same can eb said for many other games on all systems because they're niche.

I wasn't talking about how much SW they'll sell though...

If SW sales weren't good, games wouldn't continue on for a long time period. Which would mean, it doesn't really matter if games were good to began with. Besides LBP owns all those games.

 

Really, LBP, a game of a completely different Genre altogether from any of the afore mentioned titles will own them. Apples and Oranges much? Even then, comparing games that aren't even out yet, good call.

 

That's my opinion. Tell me how my opinion for a game could be wrong?

Edit: Nice try though.

 

How about your opinion is wrong because the game isn't out yet and you haven't played it thus there is no ground for you to make an opinion.

 

Well, here's the definition for you. Maybe there is no ground for you to say anything, before you know the true defintion of the word rather then jumping to conclusions.

Opinion:A belief or conclusion held with confidence but not substantiated by positive knowledge or proof.

Oh and here's the definition of condifence as well, because I'm sure you'll make another conslusion, because you don't know the definition of confidence either.

Confidence:Trust or faith in a person or thing.

 

 

So by using semantics you're hoping to get out of this? If there was any validity to your original argument you wouldn't have been reduced to this pathetic display of splitting hairs.

I mean for the love of god you're trying to cop out using the semantic nuances of a self-imposed distinction in definition. Even then the given meaning of the discussion was equally understood by both parties so trying to pull a, "Dur-hur, that's not what the definition says" after you've already acknowledged the agreed upon meaning several times previous to this in our exchange.

You can't default on an argument of definition and semantics when you've already been playing by the very definition you're trying to challenge.

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But even then, you're saying you have confidence in a Company that has shot its profit margins to hell with a sloppy and poorly planned product. Shot the PS3 in the foot by not only making it too over-engineered and poorly prepaired for development but too expensive largely thanks to an unecessary propriotary format that benefits gaming only when forced to. I guess the PS and PS2 game libraries are worthless because backwards compatibility is a thing of the past, perhaps someday the PS3's game library you claim is so great won't mean a hill of beans to you either when the PS4 comes out. Isn't Six-Axis great? It's the best thing ever isn't it? And Sony's new motion controls, what a novel idea. Though, in all seriousness, hasn't it ever bothered you that everything you claim is so great about the PS3 requires an investment of several thousand dollars on the behalf of the consumer just to even take part of it in anyway benefitial beyond that of the competition? Does covering your ears and screaming, "SONY WILL WIN" not strike you in the least bit as dillusional?

Has the recent events in the Video Gaming market forced you Sony fanboys over the edge? Have you all gone bonkers, all of a sudden our forums are flooded with these insane proclamations of faith and loyalty to a brand that has thrown away everything they've achieved with the PS and PS2.