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sc94597 on 12 August 2008
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
sc94597 said:
Also notice the cellphone game made by Disney and not square enix. If they both owned the game, there probably would have been a dispute. Oh and I don't really think Final Fantasy Characters have a big impact on Kingdom Hearts.

 

Are you talking about coded?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_(series)#Games

Its the Vcast game.

V CAST

A Kingdom Hearts game was developed exclusively for V CAST, Verizon Wireless's broadband service, and was released on October 1, 2004 in Japan and on February 4, 2005 in the United States.[36] It was one of the launch games for the V CAST services.[37] The game, developed by Superscape and published by Disney Mobile with no involvement from Square Enix, features the original Kingdom Hearts's gameplay, modified for the input method of mobile phones.[38]

The first section begins with the protagonist of the original Kingdom Hearts, Sora, shipwrecked on a seemingly uninhabited island, his friends Goofy and Donald missing. Sora must find a way to escape the island, as well as reuniting with Donald and Goofy. Reception of the first playable mission pack was mixed. The game was criticized for its awkward controls and limited availability. The visual appeal was praised; GameSpot stated Sora "is very detailed and well animated" and complimented the 3D environments.[39]

 

 

Then why wasn't there a kingdom hearts gamecube game?If disney likes nintendo so much why not a gamecube game?Maybe because at that time square wasn't in good terms with nintendo?Plus square should have something to do with kingdom hearts since it is a collaboration if they weren't then why doesn't disney gives EA or any other company the rights to develop and publish kingdom hearts games why only square enix?

Just because they COULD do something doesn't mean they WILL do it. If you look at most Disney games you see today, most of them are on the DS and WII. Now look at who made the second most profits last quarter, only bested by Nintendo. Now we all know they couldn't have profitted that much on the GC. Also if square is making the games, and they are selling well, why have EA develop it? Actually that wouldn't make sense for a western company to develop a Jrpg in the first place.

 

EA was just an example I could have put any other company :p Also it has the same chances to go to the 360 what if M$ decides to give disney some cash and it ends up as a 360 exclusive.You see there are odds of kh3 to go to any platform not just because is a disney game then it means it is absolutely going to the wii(likes soriku makes it look like :p).

You do know that Microsoft does run out of bribing money like everybody else. Also it is alot harder to bribe for an exclusive game that would have probably sold much better on another console,They would probably have to pay close to half of the amount of profits Disney would have made on the Wii. 

In addition you say that if square is making the games then why should other company develop it? In the same way why should kh leave the sony brand if the other games sold well on previous sony consoles?Because the current Sony console doesn't have the userbase, or the mainstream appeal as the last two. Also Kingdom Hearts is also found on the Ds and GBA so I don't know where you think they care about brand exclusivty. Also it could be multiplatform 360+ps3 will probably sell more than if it was a wii exclusive.It could sell well in America due to  the 360. I don't think they would. By the time of the release the Wii would probably have sold more than 50% marketshare, and it also targets the same demograph as Kindom Hearts more than the PS3 or 360. I do agree though that there is still a chance for it to released on other consoles that aren't eh Wii, but I have never argued otherwise, just that the chance is more likely for it to be released for Wii.

 

 



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ctk495 on 12 August 2008
Soriku said:
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
sc94597 said:
Also notice the cellphone game made by Disney and not square enix. If they both owned the game, there probably would have been a dispute. Oh and I don't really think Final Fantasy Characters have a big impact on Kingdom Hearts.

 

Are you talking about coded?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_(series)#Games

Its the Vcast game.

V CAST

A Kingdom Hearts game was developed exclusively for V CAST, Verizon Wireless's broadband service, and was released on October 1, 2004 in Japan and on February 4, 2005 in the United States.[36] It was one of the launch games for the V CAST services.[37] The game, developed by Superscape and published by Disney Mobile with no involvement from Square Enix, features the original Kingdom Hearts's gameplay, modified for the input method of mobile phones.[38]

The first section begins with the protagonist of the original Kingdom Hearts, Sora, shipwrecked on a seemingly uninhabited island, his friends Goofy and Donald missing. Sora must find a way to escape the island, as well as reuniting with Donald and Goofy. Reception of the first playable mission pack was mixed. The game was criticized for its awkward controls and limited availability. The visual appeal was praised; GameSpot stated Sora "is very detailed and well animated" and complimented the 3D environments.[39]

 

 

Then why wasn't there a kingdom hearts gamecube game?If disney likes nintendo so much why not a gamecube game?Maybe because at that time square wasn't in good terms with nintendo?Plus square should have something to do with kingdom hearts since it is a collaboration if they weren't then why doesn't disney gives EA or any other company the rights to develop and publish kingdom hearts games why only square enix?

 

Maybe because...

1. SE didn't have good relations with Nintendo during the PS2/GC/XBox era
2. The PS2 sold a lot more than the GC

And as for the bolded, why the **** would they give it to EA? Do you even know how KH started?

Straight from Wikipedia:

"The idea for Kingdom Hearts came about when producer Shinji Hashimoto met with a Disney executive in an elevator; Square and Disney had previously worked in the same building in Japan.[45] The production team was composed of over 100 members from both Square and Disney"

Give it to EA? This must be the dumbest statement I've heard from you...seriously lol.

But wait disney owns the IP not square why shouldn't they tell square to shut up and develop it on the gamecube if disney likes nintendo so much?Square should have nothing to do with in which platform kh goes,isn't that what you are trying to say?By replying to my post in that way you are contradicting your previous staments.In addition you should chill buddy why when it always comes to kh you have to become so aggresive saying stuff like **** and cursing is it just me other kingdom hearts going to the wii is the thing you want the most?An lol about about the dumbest statement I already mention in one of my others posts that I could have put any other company it was just an example.

 



Million on 12 August 2008
sc94597 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
No Sephiroth in a KH game would suck...

Yeah we all need mama's boy in there.  Seriously: You probably are one of a few of the Niche fans that would really care. aLot of KH's fanbase is Mainstream, and most probably never even played A Final Fantasy game to actually care.

 

I hate debating with people who argue mainly with their opinion and base their arguments on poor foundations so after this i'm out of the thread , you couldn't proove a single thing you said in that post and claiming one of the best selling RPG's isn't mainstream only screams spin.

Alot of your KH will be on the Wii argument is fueled by your desire for the game to be on the Wii , not credible research , not reputable sources , just alot of anecdotes , spin , opinion and sly remarks.




Obliterator1700 on 12 August 2008
Soriku said:
Million said:
Wether Disney own KH exclusivley or not i still dought that
A.They'll make any decisions regarding the game exlcusivley
B.They'll want to develop a future KH title without Square Enix

All the Nintendo fanboyishness aside the game will go whever they feel makes the most business sence , no where ever your anecdotal , poorly informed opinion hopes it will go.

You can argue all day about what platform you hope it'll apear on , in reality your debate has no effect on rea life. I'm personaly unsure at this point.

 


Except...us Nintendo fanboys actually take that into account. Disney is the bigger deciding factorm but it's not like we totally discount SE. Besides, does SE have any reason to make another huge HD project?

@ctk

WTF, mate?

First of all, the KH games aren't only on Sony platforms. KH: CoM, 358/2 Days, and Coded say hi. Second, the Wii is goign to have over 50% market share by the end of the year so PS3 + 360 sales aren't necessary when you have one console that is beating the other consoles. Third, who do you SERIOUSLY think Disney characters would appeal to? PS3/360 fans (made up of older teens and adults) or Wii fans (made up of all demographics but has a lot more 9-14 year olds than the PS3 or 360 which are KH's demographic). And the Wii > 360 in NA so I don't see why it'd sell more on the 360 than the Wii in NA.
If Square decides to quit what will Disney do? Make another game like the one you should me?

 

 



ctk495 on 12 August 2008
Soriku said:
Million said:
Wether Disney own KH exclusivley or not i still dought that
A.They'll make any decisions regarding the game exlcusivley
B.They'll want to develop a future KH title without Square Enix

All the Nintendo fanboyishness aside the game will go whever they feel makes the most business sence , no where ever your anecdotal , poorly informed opinion hopes it will go.

You can argue all day about what platform you hope it'll apear on , in reality your debate has no effect on rea life. I'm personaly unsure at this point.

 


Except...us Nintendo fanboys actually take that into account. Disney is the bigger deciding factorm but it's not like we totally discount SE. Besides, does SE have any reason to make another huge HD project?

@ctk

WTF, mate?

First of all, the KH games aren't only on Sony platforms. KH: CoM, 358/2 Days, and Coded say hi. Second, the Wii is goign to have over 50% market share by the end of the year so PS3 + 360 sales aren't necessary when you have one console that is beating the other consoles. Third, who do you SERIOUSLY think Disney characters would appeal to? PS3/360 fans (made up of older teens and adults) or Wii fans (made up of all demographics but has a lot more 9-14 year olds than the PS3 or 360 which are KH's demographic). And the Wii > 360 in NA so I don't see why it'd sell more on the 360 than the Wii in NA.

Ahh the same thing over again the demografic kingdom hearts could appeal to the people that are buying FFXIII.Additionally isn't the highest third party game on the wii a collaboration between nintendo and sega,it includes nintendo how can you gurantee that kingdom hearts will sell more on the wii than on the 360+ps3. Name a game that is multiplatform and that the wii version beats the 360+ps3 sales........

 



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sc94597 on 12 August 2008
Million said:
sc94597 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
No Sephiroth in a KH game would suck...

Yeah we all need mama's boy in there.  Seriously: You probably are one of a few of the Niche fans that would really care. aLot of KH's fanbase is Mainstream, and most probably never even played A Final Fantasy game to actually care.

 

I hate debating with people who argue mainly with their opinion and base their arguments on poor foundations so after this i'm out of the thread , you couldn't proove a single thing you said in that post and claiming one of the best selling RPG's isn't mainstream only screams spin.

Alot of your KH will be on the Wii argument is fueled by your desire for the game to be on the Wii , not credible research , not reputable sources , just alot of anecdotes , spin , opinion and sly remarks.

Where did I claim that it was mainstream? I said that the Niche fans are the ones that care about the Final Fantasy characters, while the Mainstream ones don't really. Nothing there says it isn't Mainstream. As for arguing with facts, lets just say I'm using observations which is all we could really argue with right now, due to the little facts we have. Nothing is wrong with that either. Also while I would prefer KH3 to go to the Wii, I'm not dieing for it. I like the games, but there are plenty of other games that I would prefer, and I really wouldn't care too much what console it went to.

 



ctk495 on 12 August 2008
Million said:
sc94597 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
No Sephiroth in a KH game would suck...

Yeah we all need mama's boy in there. Seriously: You probably are one of a few of the Niche fans that would really care. aLot of KH's fanbase is Mainstream, and most probably never even played A Final Fantasy game to actually care.

 

I hate debating with people who argue mainly with their opinion and base their arguments on poor foundations so after this i'm out of the thread , you couldn't proove a single thing you said in that post and claiming one of the best selling RPG's isn't mainstream only screams spin.

Alot of your KH will be on the Wii argument is fueled by your desire for the game to be on the Wii , not credible research , not reputable sources , just alot of anecdotes , spin , opinion and sly remarks.

I actually agree with this post maybe sc doesn't desire it that much but soriku does.

 



ClaudeLv250 on 12 August 2008

People need to stop making these threads.

First, Disney isn't sellign KH merchandise at Disney World because the time isn't right. They're probably going to make a KH movie, then they'll introduce merchandise to Disne yWorld along with a KH-themed attraction no doubt.

Second, people need to stop arguing about the platform for a game that's not even officially announced. Either way, KH3 is going to the Wii. We all know this. It's only a matter of when they announce it. Until then just argue about something else.



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Kasz216 on 12 August 2008
sc94597 said:
ctk495 said:
sc94597 said:
Obliterator1700 said:
sc94597 said:
Also notice the cellphone game made by Disney and not square enix. If they both owned the game, there probably would have been a dispute. Oh and I don't really think Final Fantasy Characters have a big impact on Kingdom Hearts.

 

Are you talking about coded?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_(series)#Games

Its the Vcast game.

V CAST

A Kingdom Hearts game was developed exclusively for V CAST, Verizon Wireless's broadband service, and was released on October 1, 2004 in Japan and on February 4, 2005 in the United States.[36] It was one of the launch games for the V CAST services.[37] The game, developed by Superscape and published by Disney Mobile with no involvement from Square Enix, features the original Kingdom Hearts's gameplay, modified for the input method of mobile phones.[38]

The first section begins with the protagonist of the original Kingdom Hearts, Sora, shipwrecked on a seemingly uninhabited island, his friends Goofy and Donald missing. Sora must find a way to escape the island, as well as reuniting with Donald and Goofy. Reception of the first playable mission pack was mixed. The game was criticized for its awkward controls and limited availability. The visual appeal was praised; GameSpot stated Sora "is very detailed and well animated" and complimented the 3D environments.[39]

 

 

Then why wasn't there a kingdom hearts gamecube game?If disney likes nintendo so much why not a gamecube game?Maybe because at that time square wasn't in good terms with nintendo?Plus square should have something to do with kingdom hearts since it is a collaboration if they weren't then why doesn't disney gives EA or any other company the rights to develop and publish kingdom hearts games why only square enix?

Just because they COULD do something doesn't mean they WILL do it. If you look at most Disney games you see today, most of them are on the DS and WII. Now look at who made the second most profits last quarter, only bested by Nintendo. Now we all know they couldn't have profitted that much on the GC. Also if square is making the games, and they are selling well, why have EA develop it? Actually that wouldn't make sense for a western company to develop a Jrpg in the first place.

 

Wait are you saying Disney made the second most profit in the games division last quarter?

Is that really right?

 



sc94597 on 12 August 2008

Oh btw what are sony fans arguing with? Facts? I'm sure we could find tons of their opinions in previous arguments, so I don't think this using opinions, or observations are exclusive to Nintendo fans, when most arguments from all sides have them.