Fernando said:
Just the Earth, Universe, life, nature... us. |
lol ahhahahahha that is the funniest reply you have made Fernando. You're so quick to jump on the religious train to preach you didn't even realize it was full of the choir. lol.
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Fernando said:
Just the Earth, Universe, life, nature... us. |
Aw dang i forgot nature! I feel so foolish
| appolose said:
I'll set up a logical and possibly scientific proof for the supernatural. Premise 1: Matter-energy cannot be created (1st law of thermodynamics) by physical means. Premise 2: The universe (matter-energy) had a beginning. Conclusion: The universe was created by non-physical (supernatural) means. The logic of the argument is sound: If it wasn't a car that hit you, it was a non-car. Logic does not depend on the validity of the statements proposed, merely the consistency between them. Now, onto Premise 1. I'm fairly sure no one's going to try to contradict that; universal consent by scientists (and I'm pretty sure a quantum flux will not usher into existence anything; it's not nothing that's fluxing, right?) Premise 2: Now let's consider the lifespan of the universe: it's either going to expand continuously and freeze, or it'll collape onto itself. If the universe had been existence forever, then obviously it's death is not going to be the big freeze, which should have happened already. If the universe is going to collapse onto itself, again you have the same problem, unless you suggest that the universe re-expands and starts over (oscillating universe model). The problem with that is, there is an infinite time paradox: how did we cross an infinite amount of time? So, the universe had to have had a beginning because it would either be dead by now or it would be paradoxial to sugest otherwise. I say all this to show that science can easily allow for the supernatural as an explanation, and to give an argument for the supernatural.
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No. I'm an out and proud atheist.
I am an atheist. Logically I have no problem with god in the deist sense. That some remote abstract "intelligence" (though it would be such an abstract form of intelligence we'd barely be able to constitute it as intelligence as we know it) exists. Saying that the universe always existed or that some abstract being always existed are both illogical, but I go with universes always existing because with the deity part you're just adding and extra step to get to your illogical conclusion, and that seems unnecessary.
What I have a logical problem with is calling that abstract entity the christian god, or the hindu gods, or the muslim god, or the jewish god, or any other god. Disproving "god" is impossible (as is disproving a giant invisible space leprechaun) but disproving religions is easy. They are man made, and made by guys who weren't very smart, logical, or moral by today's standards.
I could go on and on about the bible, which is one of the most violent heinous books ever written, and it's god who is hands down by any literary critique the villain of the story and one of the most wicked characters ever written. But that's usually lost on people who want to believe in god because they are afraid of not existing some day, or are terrified of the idea that their isn't any purpose to life except that which they give it.
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Though the origins and creation of life are debatable topics, nowadays, atheism seems like a very logical concept as compared to something like idol worship or religious scriptures.
The India mythology, for instance, is one of the most difficult to believe, yet India might be one of the most religious countries,which is something that baffles me.
People often say that science cant explain everything, but what it explains,it does so with concrete proof.
Modern Religion ,on the other hand, solely stems from literature which often loses track of reality in order to glorify a human being wielding immense influence over the hearts and minds of people of that period and region.
"The accumulated filth of all their sex and murders will foam up about their waist and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"...
....and I'll look down and whisper "no."
- Rorschach
three pages and we haven't solved the question of whether or not there are gods yet? Come on people!
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| stof said: three pages and we haven't solved the question of whether or not there are gods yet? Come on people! |
Well, we know that Chuck Noriis exists. Thats a start.
"The accumulated filth of all their sex and murders will foam up about their waist and all the whores and politicians will look up and shout "Save us!"...
....and I'll look down and whisper "no."
- Rorschach
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