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NJ5 said:

To put the icing on the cake, here is a report saying DVD sales in the first two years were at 16.3 million, already higher than Blu-Ray after 3 years:

http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/news/20/26720.php

Seems to me like there's a lot of spin going on in those optimistic reports.

 

 

Ummm, Blu-Ray has only been out for two years...



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akuma587 said:
NJ5 said:

 To put the icing on the cake, here is a report saying DVD sales in the first two years were at 16.3 million, already higher than Blu-Ray after 3 years:

http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/news/20/26720.php

Seems to me like there's a lot of spin going on in those optimistic reports.

 

 

Ummm, Blu-Ray has only been out for two years...

Not according to that report or wikipedia.

EDIT - forget it, you're right, two years.

But it's still correct to say DVD grew faster than Blu-Ray.

 



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MikeB said:
@ DMeisterJ

Blu-Ray sales are not going to just eclipse DVD in one day or anything like that.


You are of course right and I think most people understand this, but many are just playing ignorant.

It took DVD 6 years to capture a majority share of just movie rentals compared to VHS in leading technology adopting countries like the US and the UK. At the current pacing it looks like the transition will happen faster for the Blu-ray format, but is greatly dependent on HDTV penetration as well, if there's going to be a unforeseen economic decline it could take longer.

Someone stop the thread!  Someone actually remembers that it took DVD that long to overcome VHS!

"The first Blu-ray Disc titles were released on June 20, 2006."

@NJ5  It is the beginning of AUGUST which means Blu-Ray has been out for 2 years and barely a month and a half.  I don't know where you get three years out of that, unless your raging hatred of all things related to Sony has warped your sense of time.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Faxanadu said:
now the question is: is PS3 helping BluRay or is it taking away the buyers from other BluRay players, as it is still among the cheapest options.

 

It's no longer the cheapest option.

 

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8777344&st=blu-ray+player&type=product&id=1204332499513

 



SHMUPGurus said:
2009: Year of the PS3? :D

 

Didn't I hear that last year? 2008 the year of the PS3. Could we give that a break? How about 2009 the year of the gamer?



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@akuma587: I had edited my post already after realizing my mistake. Anyway... The point still stands, Blu-Ray is not outpacing DVD's growth but people keep repeating it.

 



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NJ5 said:
akuma587 said:
NJ5 said:

 To put the icing on the cake, here is a report saying DVD sales in the first two years were at 16.3 million, already higher than Blu-Ray after 3 years:

http://www.movieweb.com/dvd/news/20/26720.php

Seems to me like there's a lot of spin going on in those optimistic reports.

 

 

Ummm, Blu-Ray has only been out for two years...

Not according to that report or wikipedia.

EDIT - forget it, you're right, two years.

But it's still correct to say DVD grew faster than Blu-Ray.

 

 

No cheapshots please, but you are wrong.

http://www.techradar.com/news/home-cinema/blu-ray-adoption-faster-than-dvd-385616

http://hometheater.about.com/b/2008/01/29/blu-ray-and-hd-dvd-sales-growing-faster-than-standard-dvd.htm

Please don't shoot the messenger.



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@MikeB: I looked at those links, and I don't see any numbers contradicting the article I posted.

Where is the data which contradicts the 16.3 million DVDs / 11 million Blu-Ray information?

Notice that the 11 million Blu-Ray discs number comes directly from blu-ray.com, I doubt they'd underrepresent Blu-Ray sales.

 



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crumas2 said:
Faxanadu said:
now the question is: is PS3 helping BluRay or is it taking away the buyers from other BluRay players, as it is still among the cheapest options.

 

It's no longer the cheapest option.

 

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8777344&st=blu-ray+player&type=product&id=1204332499513

 

 

Don't buy Insignia products. Insignia is Best Buy's own brand and there quality isn't that good. There warranty is run by a company I used to work for. Not great, it might be a cheap Blu-Ray player but it might give you a headache. I say the PS3 is still the better option until you see Sony, Panasonic, JVC, and other companies Blu-Ray players at this price point.



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NJ5 is right, the disc sales are greater for DVD in the same timeframe. The amount of titles on Blu-Ray was also significantly lower, however.

But people who assume that Blu-Ray will fail simply because it hasn't reached the same amount of sales during the same timeframe as DVD are similarly misguided.

Look how long it took MP3 players to catch on. The IPod was the only one that really made the market take off, and it didn't get big until 3-4 years after the first MP3 players came out. You don't here people complaining about how slow the market started off. Its just a lot easier to criticize a fledgling technology. People did it to DVD all the time when it first came out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mp3_players

"The predecessors to digital audio players are portable CD and MiniDisc players, which are commonly known as "Portable Audio Devices". Although the data is digitally stored on discs, neither one is able to support digital file formats.

The first mass-produced DAP was created in 1997 by SaeHan Information Systems, which domestically sold its “MPMan” player in the middle of 1998.[1] The South Korean company then licensed the players to Eiger Labs which distributed them—now branded as Eiger Labs MPMan F10—to the North American market during the summer of 1998.[2] The flash-based players were available in 16 MB storage capacity."

"In October 2001, Apple Computer (now known as Apple Inc.) unveiled the first generation iPod, the 5 GB hard drive based DAP with a 1.8" Toshiba drive. With the development of a minimalistic user interface and a smaller form factor, the iPod was initially notable within users of the Macintosh community. In July 2002, Apple introduced the second generation update to the iPod. It was compatible with Windows computers through Musicmatch Jukebox (now known as Y!Music Musicmatch Jukebox). The iPod series, which grew to include microdrive and flash-based players, has become the market leader in DAPs."



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson