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Forums - Microsoft - Mass Effect - New 360 feature to copy disc to HDD will improve load times?

Yojimbo on 04 August 2008
horriblebastard said:
PS3: -

Option to install every disc based game? No.
Option to play every disc based game without an install? No.

360 after the update: -

Option to install every disc based game? Yes.
Option to play every disc based game without an install? Yes.

It's that simple.

Yes it is optional. But you are installing full games takes more space and some people dont have harddrive and the majority have only 20Gb. Ther real size is 13GB? Maybe you can install one game or two if you dont want any other content.

 



 
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horriblebastard on 04 August 2008

But you are installing full games takes more space and some people dont have harddrive and the majority have only 20Gb. Ther real size is 13GB? Maybe you can install one game or two if you dont want any other content.

So? I could address this with your first sentence: -

Yes it is optional.

It won't make any difference to Arcade owners - it's not going to make their experience worse. 20GB owners can install 1 or maybe 2 games, but are you saying that's of no benefit at all?



Yojimbo on 04 August 2008
horriblebastard said:
But you are installing full games takes more space and some people dont have harddrive and the majority have only 20Gb. Ther real size is 13GB? Maybe you can install one game or two if you dont want any other content.

So? I could address this with your first sentence: -

Yes it is optional.

It won't make any difference to Arcade owners - it's not going to make their experience worse. 20GB owners can install 1 or maybe 2 games, but are you saying that's of no benefit at all?

There is a benefit but not to much users and it is going to be alot of installing and uninstalling. Atleast better then mandatory.

 



 
horriblebastard on 05 August 2008

There is a benefit but not to much users and it is going to be alot of installing and uninstalling. Atleast better then mandatory.

There doesn't have to be a lot of installing/uninstalling because it's not mandatory. I don't see why people can't understand this. You either take advantage of the installs or you don't, but either way it's a choice. If you are uninstalling and installing data literally every time you decide to play a different game, then you probably aren't making the most efficient use of the feature.



iamfanboy on 05 August 2008

I have a 20G 360 and don't really care if I can only copy one game at a time... I'm used to sticking to a game and right now nothing has me more hooked then Gears :)

I currently have Gears, GTA4, Perfect Dark and Mass Effect, I've only noticed this in Mass Effect. Loads times at the end or beginning of a stage is expected but it's annoying when it occurs while you're firing a weapon.



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greenmedic88 on 05 August 2008

It's more trouble than it's worth for all but the small handful of games that will actually stand to benefit by a full install.

Mass Effect is the only one I can think of offhand, and that's because the game was gimped by the lack of an install option from the beginning.

I'm still not buying the "10 minute" full ROM copy to HDD and 30% faster load times across the board. 30% may well only apply to certain situations. It should help with streaming textures, but I seriously doubt it's going to be the night and day difference some seem to be expecting.

Seeing as how it takes much longer than 10 minutes to copy 8GB of data from a DVD to HDD on a PC with a faster DVD drive and a faster 7200RPM HDD, it doesn't seem possible.

If those elevator rides in Mass Effect are still just as aggravatingly long, minus a few seconds (compare the PC version), I doubt I'll ever use the install option again.

We'll see. This may well be the most touted, least used feature added to the winter update.



horriblebastard on 05 August 2008

What would be good is if the game could install as you're actually playing it. I don't know if that's even possible, but it would be cool.

The 10 minute example was with Devil May Cry 4, so I would also doubt that every game would take the exact same time to install and offer the exact same reduction in load times. According to Joystiq, DMC4 takes up 4-5GB of disc space when fully installed, so some games would be bigger than that and others, Ninja Gaiden II for example, would be smaller.