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NJ5 on 02 August 2008

If the iPhone becomes big in terms of games, at least Apple fanboys will finally have games to play.



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rocketpig on 02 August 2008
NJ5 said:
If the iPhone becomes big in terms of games, at least Apple fanboys will finally have games to play.

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GlingGling on 02 August 2008
Plaupius said:
GlingGling said:

Why would anyone pay over $1800 just to access the hardware?
(source: http://gizmodo.com/5015540/iphone-3gs-true-price-compared)

And without a contract $599 for the 8GB version or $699 for the 16GB model.
(source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-9981676-1.html)

In this generation of iphone can't be a viable gaming platform. If people are shying away from spending $400 on a console that can bust a graphical groove, why would they spend $200/$300 more for Dreamcast on the go?

And don't gimme "it's a phone/multimedia machine too" because the demographics are different.

You just answered your own question. The comparable cell phones out there are in the same price range as iPhone, but won't make a similar gaming platform. Obviously people aren't going to buy the iPhone solely for gaming, or even mainly for gaming: it is a phone after all, along with a host of other things. But, way more people have phones than game consoles, and a lot of the gaming demographic is going to overlap with the iPhone demographic, so for them it may make sense to pay that much for a Dreamcast, iPod, Phone, GPS etc. on the go. I am one of them.

Then again, I don't know what you mean by a viable gaming platform. We'll have to see how it turns out, but I believe that after a year or two, iPhone will be the number 3 mobile gaming platform, right after DS and PSP. Other cell phones just can't compete with it.

 

By viable I mean not being able to offer anything more than marginal sales to studio developers. It's selling units at good clip, an estimated 10 million units through the first 12 months. I see the potential for the iphone to enter the mobile gaming market (it has a better chance than anything else). But again, with such diverse demographics, a high pricetag, and slow adoption I don't see it making an impact on the mainstream gaming market in quite some time. I wonder if we can draw any comparison to the abysmal PSP software sales (not counting recent success in japan).

 



BottledSpringWater on 02 August 2008
FJ-Warez said:
Incandescence said:
rocketpig said:
kingofwale said:
rocketpig said:
kingofwale said:
the guy is slowly becoming the biggest idiot in gaming. Right up there with Pachter.

ROFL. Sure. He's only been at the forefront of gaming technology for well over 15 years now...

 

and yet. we like him being there.... as oppose to be during interviews.

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Bitmap Frogs on 02 August 2008

Screw you rocket pig, final cut pro has better graphics and more engaging gameplay.





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mike_intellivision on 02 August 2008

Win for Gling Gling.

There might be a lot of iPhones out there.
But most are not all bought for gaming.

Also 10M base
And the PSP is more about games while the DS is solely about games (and Ubisoft self-helf software)

So how is iPhone going to rule gaming again?

Mike from Morgantown



      


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mike_intellivision on 02 August 2008

I just thought of something else.

The average car today has much more computing power than the Apollo space crafts of the 1960s-1970s.

So which would you like to take to the moon?

In other words, power is not the end all/be all for all applications.

Mike from Morgantown



      


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iron_megalith on 02 August 2008

He sure throws words the same rate as a PR does. :S



Viper1 on 02 August 2008

I can't believe he said that. The ONLY thing the iPhone has that is superior to the PS2/Xbox is RAM.

Monkey Ball on the iPhones doesn't look any better than DS titles.



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FaRmLaNd on 02 August 2008

sigh. How dare he talk during his own conference... 3d graphics wouldn't be anywhere advanced as they are if he wasn't in the business.