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cdude1034 said:
Cursayer2 said:
I wish the people at EB/Gamestop would actually TRY to do their jobs...

It's not their job to try to move consoles.


 actually EB/GameStop Managers do have a reason to try to sell the PS3. Sony is holding a reward contest. For each console sold they get like 10 points, the manager at the end of the contest with the highest points in the state gets rewarded like 500 more points, and the the manager who sells the most in the whole country gets like 5000 points and a new car. The points can be redeemed for prizes on a rewards site. I forget the link but I talked to the manager at my EB Games. He said the prizes range from CD Players to Car Audio to a PS3 to Extreme Gaming PCs ($5000+ computers). 



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vux984 said:

You're right, if you don't have an HDTV, and there isn't one in the foreseeable future, then no BD isn't important. I don't know if you've actually seen a BD or HDDVD if you don't think they are better than DVD(all you have to do is find a BD with SD res special features and flip from that to the reg movie, and it's like WOWZER). Anyways, if you DO have a HDTV and you like movies then it's a BIG selling point......... I love the blu-ray =)

 

Those SD res special features look like crap by comparison even on regular DVDs.  They don't pay ANY attention to the quality of the encoding on the special features. Why should they, nobody cares about them.

Hell... compare a 'bad' DVD like Hellraiser III (one of the worst I've ever seen in terms of encoding) to a good DVD like LotR side by side and it will blow you away. The quality, skill, and effort put into the encoding is actually more relevant than the resolution in terms of Picture Quality.

Point is, comparing the BD movie with an SD special feature is about as fair as comparing a professionally mastered DVD to a cam-corder theatre rip stored as a VCD, and concluding that DVD is 'soooo' much better than VCD based on that. DVD is better than VCD... but its grossly unfair comparison. After all if you put the theatre rip onto a DVD it would still look like crap. And if a pro made the VCD using the DVD as a source using a hi quality encoder it may well be intidistinguishable from the DVD to most users.

And in fact, a very well mastered DVD looks just as good as a mediocre BD. And the number of BDs with mediocre encoding is shocking given that improved PQ is supposed to be the whole point.


I didn't mean like behind the scenes featurettes, I meant like look at the Theatrical Trailers on Chicken Little then the movie, or did the commercials always look bad too, or take a look at the special features on Blazing Saddles, the IN-MOVIE clips they use are EXACTLY them same as the original movie, then switch over to another scene, it's really amazing. I do have to question what BDs you've seen, most are now encoded with MPEG4 with AVC, or VC-1. Yeah, some of the first BDs weren't great but neither were the first HD-DVDs(any that were MPEG2), they had the exact same issues.



I would have been all, ya know the Wii comes with 5 games and is only $250. I'm sure if you look hard enough you can find one. But that is just because I am a jerk.

Interesting though. You would think that even if the clerks don't get any kind of spiff or bonus they would still mention some of the additional features. Even if this guy didn't have the other $70 to get a game he could have been sold on the BR alone. Theres always blockbuster.



ssj12 said:
cdude1034 said:
Cursayer2 said:
I wish the people at EB/Gamestop would actually TRY to do their jobs...

It's not their job to try to move consoles.


actually EB/GameStop Managers do have a reason to try to sell the PS3. Sony is holding a reward contest. For each console sold they get like 10 points, the manager at the end of the contest with the highest points in the state gets rewarded like 500 more points, and the the manager who sells the most in the whole country gets like 5000 points and a new car. The points can be redeemed for prizes on a rewards site. I forget the link but I talked to the manager at my EB Games. He said the prizes range from CD Players to Car Audio to a PS3 to Extreme Gaming PCs ($5000+ computers).


 That is true. The manager. However, unless he is providing some incentive to his/her employees in the store....



ckmlb said:

cated to selling it, since the guy was literally on the fence and he definitely looked like he was going to get it before changing his mind.


 I'm going to take a wild guess and say the clerk just didn't care if he made a PS3 sale or not.  I'm actually guessing he probably preferred not to since it meant less work (dealing with warranty, trying to push more games, getting information, ect).



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ssj12 said:
cdude1034 said:
Cursayer2 said:
I wish the people at EB/Gamestop would actually TRY to do their jobs...

It's not their job to try to move consoles.


actually EB/GameStop Managers do have a reason to try to sell the PS3. Sony is holding a reward contest. For each console sold they get like 10 points, the manager at the end of the contest with the highest points in the state gets rewarded like 500 more points, and the the manager who sells the most in the whole country gets like 5000 points and a new car. The points can be redeemed for prizes on a rewards site. I forget the link but I talked to the manager at my EB Games. He said the prizes range from CD Players to Car Audio to a PS3 to Extreme Gaming PCs ($5000+ computers).


 Hence why your normal employee doesn't give a crap if they don't sell another PS3.  The managers can't bribe them with anything to sell more and they more than likely don't care if the manager gets bonus points.  Most people who work at Gamestop/EBGames are fairly miserable and just don't care (after the initial excitement of OMG I work in a game store!!!!!).



twesterm said:
ssj12 said:
cdude1034 said:
Cursayer2 said:
I wish the people at EB/Gamestop would actually TRY to do their jobs...

It's not their job to try to move consoles.


actually EB/GameStop Managers do have a reason to try to sell the PS3. Sony is holding a reward contest. For each console sold they get like 10 points, the manager at the end of the contest with the highest points in the state gets rewarded like 500 more points, and the the manager who sells the most in the whole country gets like 5000 points and a new car. The points can be redeemed for prizes on a rewards site. I forget the link but I talked to the manager at my EB Games. He said the prizes range from CD Players to Car Audio to a PS3 to Extreme Gaming PCs ($5000+ computers).


Hence why your normal employee doesn't give a crap if they don't sell another PS3. The managers can't bribe them with anything to sell more and they more than likely don't care if the manager gets bonus points. Most people who work at Gamestop/EBGames are fairly miserable and just don't care (after the initial excitement of OMG I work in a game store!!!!!).


 lol then they EB games and Gamestops by you are really really bad. The store by me is awesome. The manager lets his employees rent things from the store. So basically they get to play every game and never have to spend a dime. 



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cdude1034 said:
Cursayer2 said:
I wish the people at EB/Gamestop would actually TRY to do their jobs...

 It's not their job to try to move consoles.


What the hell is their job, to tell me the wrong release dates?

 

@DonWii, sorry but I never say IMO, because EVERYTHING on here is IMO, it should be a granted. though I guess it may rub some the wrong way... anyways I've taking this thread way off topic, sorry, outta here.



Exactly; there are rather perverse incentives at work. Without a meaningful incentives program, employees are only going to try to do well enough to not get fired. If they work their asses off selling consoles, they make minimum wage. If they're surly, lazy, and generally unhelpful, they make minimum wage and they don't have to do as much.

From a "what's good for the consumer" standpoint, I could see a clerk trying to convince someone who seems to want a PS3, but who doesn't know much about it, to buy a 360. It's simple fact that it's a more popular console in the US market, and size of the difference between the two means that it's almost certainly more popular among former PS2 casuals. It's apparently the case that knowledgeable casuals tend to opt for the 360, so it's entirely justifiable to try to convince ignorant casuals to go the same way.



I think Chad Warden's brother was working at the sprint store yesterday. I was in there getting a new cell phone, and I was a ways down the line so I was just relaxing in a corner, then I pick up the word "PS3." I start to get interested, as public conversations about video games often result in hilarity. The 2 discussing it were a Sprint customer service rep, and a random customer. Here is how the conversation went down:

Sprint rep: So man you hear about them Playstation 3s?

Customer: Is it like the PS2?

Sprint rep: Yea dude, it's ballin. It's got like 1000 games and they all look like real life.

Customer: Damn sounds tight.

Sprint rep: Yeah man, it's got this Blu-Ray shit, which makes the graphics pimpin!

Customer: How much them things cost?

Sprint rep: I dunno man, my buddy was tellin me they only like 200 bucks(yes, this is actually what he told him).

Customer: Man, I'm gonna go pick me one of them badboys up after this.

Sprint rep: Yeah man, the PS3 is ballin.


I would have loved to keep listening in on this intelligent conversation, but after "the PS3 is ballin" I couldn't help but think of that Chad Warden video on youtube and started cracking up. I tried to cover it up with a cough and walked across the room. The whole conversation just killed me though.