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EdGuila on 31 July 2008
superchunk said:
EdGuila said:
A new XBox with Bluray(finally) released early is good for MS?
Developers will have to choose between making Bluray games for a system with 60million install base(PS3) or BD games for new system with a 0 install base.

Of course when you're down 50 million units, you can't exactly resort to the old ways of bribing people. That only works when you're ahead by 5 million.

This makes no sense.

Were devs having a hard time choosing between making new games on the PS2 that has 120m+ vs the 360 in 2005/6? No, when a new gen starts, it starts. New bigger games are pushed to the new machines.

Also, at the time a new Xbox is release, PS4 will either be out or heavily talked about, just like the PS3 when 360 released. Sony is not going to let MS have too much of a head start this time.

 

The PS2 wasn't HD.  The PS3 is and already has BD games, a big step MS still has to make.  Plenty of space for devs to push PS3 games once MS finally catches up and comes out with a console with BD games, WiFi and everything else that's already standard on PS3.

Also PS3 has first party games.  MS needs to bribe 3rd parties for games.  PS3 will be $249 by the time the new XBox comes out which will be costing a lot more and finally offer BD and WiFi, something the less pricy PS3 comes with and also be behind by 50-60 million consoles.

 



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Near future: Folklore, SOCOM Confrontation, BioShock, Little Big Planet, Resistance 2.

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Hawkeye on 31 July 2008

I think his prediction sounds very reasonable. Then again, its what I want to hear. Isn't it possible that hardcore games will go to Ps360 while Nintendo games, casual games, and a few hardcore games for Nintendo fans will go to the Wii? This would allow all 3 consoles to last quite a while...



Hawk on 31 July 2008
shio said:
Dno said:
but sales of the wii makes PC games look bad......

PC games revenue totally crushes Wii PS3 and 360. That's a fact.

 

Where is information on PC game revenue?

 



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chapset on 31 July 2008

microsoft 2012
sony 2013
nintendo won't need to they'll be zillionaire by that time and they'll be conquering with all that money to find where the f**k is luigi



Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.

largedarryl on 31 July 2008
EdGuila said:
superchunk said:
EdGuila said:
A new XBox with Bluray(finally) released early is good for MS?
Developers will have to choose between making Bluray games for a system with 60million install base(PS3) or BD games for new system with a 0 install base.

Of course when you're down 50 million units, you can't exactly resort to the old ways of bribing people. That only works when you're ahead by 5 million.

This makes no sense.

Were devs having a hard time choosing between making new games on the PS2 that has 120m+ vs the 360 in 2005/6? No, when a new gen starts, it starts. New bigger games are pushed to the new machines.

Also, at the time a new Xbox is release, PS4 will either be out or heavily talked about, just like the PS3 when 360 released. Sony is not going to let MS have too much of a head start this time.

 

The PS2 wasn't HD.  The PS3 is and already has BD games, a big step MS still has to make.  Plenty of space for devs to push PS3 games once MS finally catches up and comes out with a console with BD games, WiFi and everything else that's already standard on PS3.

Also PS3 has first party games.  MS needs to bribe 3rd parties for games.  PS3 will be $249 by the time the new XBox comes out which will be costing a lot more and finally offer BD and WiFi, something the less pricy PS3 comes with and also be behind by 50-60 million consoles.

 

 

So your saying that the PS3 is going to be $250 when the new xbox and new Wii release.  Chances are the Wii2 will release at $250, and I doubt Microsoft will release too much over $399.  I don't see the point in your PS3 price point when the new consoles release, since the new consoles will offer far more than the PS3 for only a little more money.  This means all the bleeding edge techies will be getting a new system, and the Wii's will be cleaning up the lower price point buyers and any casuals that are left.



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chapset on 31 July 2008

sony 2013 cause of the 7years main console trend



Bet reminder: I bet with Tboned51 that Splatoon won't reach the 1 million shipped mark by the end of 2015. I win if he loses and I lose if I lost.

superchunk on 31 July 2008
EdGuila said:
superchunk said:
EdGuila said:
A new XBox with Bluray(finally) released early is good for MS?
Developers will have to choose between making Bluray games for a system with 60million install base(PS3) or BD games for new system with a 0 install base.

Of course when you're down 50 million units, you can't exactly resort to the old ways of bribing people. That only works when you're ahead by 5 million.

This makes no sense.

Were devs having a hard time choosing between making new games on the PS2 that has 120m+ vs the 360 in 2005/6? No, when a new gen starts, it starts. New bigger games are pushed to the new machines.

Also, at the time a new Xbox is release, PS4 will either be out or heavily talked about, just like the PS3 when 360 released. Sony is not going to let MS have too much of a head start this time.

 

The PS2 wasn't HD.  The PS3 is and already has BD games, a big step MS still has to make.  Plenty of space for devs to push PS3 games once MS finally catches up and comes out with a console with BD games, WiFi and everything else that's already standard on PS3.

Also PS3 has first party games.  MS needs to bribe 3rd parties for games.  PS3 will be $249 by the time the new XBox comes out which will be costing a lot more and finally offer BD and WiFi, something the less pricy PS3 comes with and also be behind by 50-60 million consoles.

 

You're missing the point. Once the next gen kicks off you have a huge buzz. The other systems, regardless of their tech, are automatically considered inferior by media and the mass in general.

The BD is a very minor issue, the neXtBox will surely have BD or equivalent and probably wifi sure, but it will also have a jump in a lot of other areas that will far surpass what  PS3 or 360 currently offers.

On top of that, by the time neXtBox releases, Sony will be ready to have PS4 launch. Hell it will probably launch at the same time frame. Example, PS launched in 1994, PS2 in 2000, PS3 in 2006...see a pattern here? 2012 will be PS4. If Xbox is planning on 2011, Sony may already be preparing for that and trying to have a PS4 ready for 2011.

Then, as always, the game devs won't put much on the 'losing' systems from last gen. Only the 'winner' gets new games from 3rd parties once the next gen has started. How many games did xbox or gamecube get from anyone after mid 2006?

When neXtBox and PS4 launch in 2011/12, PS3 will be on its way out, similar to the Gamecube when PS3 and Wii launched. It won't have a 10yr life regardless of what Sony says if it isn't in a comfortable 1st place.



mitsuhide on 31 July 2008

Well considering that Sony and Nintendo have already admitted they are working on the PS4 and Wii2 (respectively) then R&D times will probably mean that the new consoles will be out by 2013 unless they hold them off for some reason... like to milk this gen to the last penny.

Microsoft if they want to make their Games Division more in debt then they will be on their Xbox3 R&D now but if not then it would explain why they won't say anything about their next console when asked... because they aren't making one which i highly doubt.



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PlayStation 4: 12-15million

Xbox One: 7-10 million

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