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After watching the Dark Knight, ya I know FINALLY, I have to agree with a lot of the lines that movie had but what really struck me was the idea behind it. What makes a real hero and what makes a real villian? I felt that this topic could lead to a great discussion.

People look at cops; military; religion figureheads as heroes when, at times, they commit acts that are morally wrong in society. Yes when a soldier kills a terrorist it is looked at as a good thing but if you flip the coin was the guy really evil? The man was fighting for his own beliefs, his right to live the way his culture has, and to get people who are not welcome out of his country like we ourselves would do if we were envaded.

No matter which side of the coin you look at everyone is a hero and villian.

Some might say that for example firemen are heroes due to their work but what of their families. Is making your loved ones purposely worry about one's safety every waking moment till they come home safely that night be considered wrong at some level?

What really makes a hero or villian?


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Hero: good people
Villain: Bad people

there ya go.



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Strategyking92 said:
Hero: good people
Villain: Bad people

there ya go.

 

Adoph Hitler was a great person for the country of Germany. His motives might be "evil" but his overall idea was to better Germany in everyway and make life better for the German people.

Was he really a villian? not really. Was he a hero? not really.



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If we go by your terms, then there possibly can not be either.

I'd use a metaphor, but I feared I would be deemed a bigot if I did. It isn't bigoted, but some people could interpret it that way.



Kimi wa ne tashika ni ano toki watashi no soba ni ita

Itsudatte itsudatte itsudatte

Sugu yoko de waratteita

Nakushitemo torimodosu kimi wo

I will never leave you

good question, do you mean real people only or fictional characthers as well?



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dtewi said:
If we go by your terms, then there possibly can not be either.

I'd use a metaphor, but I feared I would be deemed a bigot if I did. It isn't bigoted, but some people could interpret it that way.

 

I'll allow it. Just quote this post so all the other mods know I did.



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ssj12 said:
Strategyking92 said:
Hero: good people
Villain: Bad people

there ya go.

 

Adoph Hitler was a great person for the country of Germany. His motives might be "evil" but his overall idea was to better Germany in everyway and make life better for the German people.

Was he really a villian? not really. Was he a hero? not really.

 

You do know I was just being patronizing, right?



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

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PS360ForTheWin said:
good question, do you mean real people only or fictional characthers as well?

 

I used Hitler in my example towards Strategyking92's psot so both.



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Strategyking92 said:
ssj12 said:
Strategyking92 said:
Hero: good people
Villain: Bad people

there ya go.

 

Adoph Hitler was a great person for the country of Germany. His motives might be "evil" but his overall idea was to better Germany in everyway and make life better for the German people.

Was he really a villian? not really. Was he a hero? not really.

 

You do know I was just being patronizing, right?

yep, but your comment worked as a great way to use that example.

 



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ssj12 said:
Strategyking92 said:
ssj12 said:
Strategyking92 said:
Hero: good people
Villain: Bad people

there ya go.

 

Adoph Hitler was a great person for the country of Germany. His motives might be "evil" but his overall idea was to better Germany in everyway and make life better for the German people.

Was he really a villian? not really. Was he a hero? not really.

 

You do know I was just being patronizing, right?

yep, but your comment worked as a great way to use that example.

 

 

alright.

 

 

For my real response, I think it would just depend on peoples views. I mean, transylvanians think Vlad the impaler is a hero, while Turks and other races consider him basically a devil.

But a person can do heroic and villainous things..... But... it all depends on what you think is heroic and villainous.

I doubt many people think strangling babies in cribs is heroic though *just an example*



And that's the only thing I need is *this*. I don't need this or this. Just this PS4... And this gaming PC. - The PS4 and the Gaming PC and that's all I need... And this Xbox 360. - The PS4, the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360, and that's all I need... And these PS3's. - The PS4, and these PS3's, and the Gaming PC, and the Xbox 360... And this Nintendo DS. - The PS4, this Xbox 360, and the Gaming PC, and the PS3's, and that's all *I* need. And that's *all* I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one... I need this. - The Gaming PC and PS4, and Xbox 360, and thePS3's . Well what are you looking at? What do you think I'm some kind of a jerk or something! - And this. That's all I need.

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