What average shooters are you speaking of? Please back up your point with a list of shooters that pulled a million on 360 and were utterly average, and if it's multi, show the dismal PS3 numbers for it.

Also the Wii managed to sell a million copies of Red Steel, and that's as average as a shooter is ever going to get.

Nobody is going to buy a 360 for just one game. Several people made that mistake on the Sony side thinking that they would be the ones to play that game. The only thing FF13 is gonna do for the 360 is steal potential sales from the PS3. That's it. PS3 could still come out on top when this game comes out, but like SEVERAL people have already said; sales for the PS3 won't be as high as it could be if the game were still exclusive.

WTH are we even talking about this. The game clearly won't come out in another year and a half to about two years anyways. Sometimes I think people on this site just want to create pointless arguments and threads and such for no reason. I hope this will be the last thread on the subject.

99.99999999999999999% of people buy an xbox360 for gears of war and/or halo.

I would call you a troll for that comment, but judging by your avatar there's no way you could be in any way biased against the 360.

no way in hell im buying a 360 soon. I play it all the time at my friends house and i will be buying a psp ds and a new laptop first. But I'm happy for 360 owners though i shall personally see to it that the halls of Square Enix flow with vengeful blood

I'm getting a 360 soonish (when the 60G comes out, I think), but FF13 has no impact. Even if it did, it won't arrive until 2009, or more likely 2010, and thus really would have little impact on my 2008 buying decision.

well at least for now, people should buy the ps3 if they want both versus and 13. That might change though...

No one should buy either console for FF XIII and Versus XIII now. They're both years away.

The news out of E3 has me more likely to supplement my Wii with an Xbox 360 than a PS3.

First of all, with FF XIII going to the X360, it means that RPG fans can have everything on one console. The new 60G models will use the latest chipset and should reduce the chance of RRoD, so they might actually be worth getting.

Second, with Sony backing away from BC (for PS2), there is no compelling reason for me to get a PS3 because not many games interest me and I have about 50 PS2 games.

The film delivery options that both announced at E3 are a wash, so they don't really matter.

I fully am aware that the PS3 may be the better value in the long run (and even less when you add in the cost of a wireless adapter and a year of Xbox Live). But with Sony essentially abandoning the previous generation of gamers, going back on its sacred promise, it makes me wonder about the company.

I doubt we will see the sales surge at 85 weeks for the PS3 that was experienced by the PS2. I also think that the closeout sale of 360s will allow it to hit 20M before the Wii hits 30M (by a week).

So in closing, yes, FF XIII could hurt Sony. But I think that abandoning B/C may hurt more in the long run.

Mike from Morgantown

	Grand Theft Auto IV	Take-Two Interactive	0.00	1.95	2.20	4.15
	Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare	Activision	0.12	1.70	1.58	3.40
	Motorstorm	Sony Computer Entertainment	0.08	1.70	1.59	3.37
	Resistance: Fall of Man	Sony Computer Entertainment	0.14	1.16	1.65	2.95
	Assassins Creed	Ubisoft	0.08	1.14	1.56	2.78
	Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots	Konami	0.60	0.98	0.89	2.47
	Gran Turismo 5 Prologue	Sony Computer Entertainment	0.26	0.43	1.20	1.89
	Uncharted: Drakes Fortune	Sony	0.06	0.69	0.92	1.67
	Pro Evolution Soccer 2008	Konami	0.32	0.02	1.31	1.65
	FIFA 08	Electronic Arts	0.02	0.27	1.19	1.48
	Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock	RedOctane	0.02	1.03	0.35	1.40
	Need for Speed: ProStreet	Electronic Arts	0.04	0.46	0.78	1.28
	Devil May Cry 4	Capcom	0.31	0.54	0.40	1.25
	Ratchet & Clank Future: Tools of Destruction	Sony Computer Entertainment	0.08	0.61	0.55	1.24
	Heavenly Sword	Sony Computer Entertainment	0.06	0.38	0.68	1.12

umm out of all the million sellers, 3 of them ar shooters. GTA4 is not a shooter, MGS4 isnt a shooter. What genre sells best? seems evenly split.

Seriously troll much?

Lets compare to the 360 now

	Halo 3	Microsoft	0.10	5.87	2.10	8.07
	Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare	Activision	0.08	4.40	1.73	6.21
	Grand Theft Auto IV	Take-Two Interactive	0.00	3.74	1.92	5.66
	Gears Of War	Microsoft	0.08	3.39	1.81	5.28
	Forza Motorsport 2	Microsoft	0.04	2.66	1.24	3.94
	Assassins Creed	Ubisoft	0.07	2.52	1.21	3.80
	Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock	RedOctane	0.00	2.54	0.62	3.16
	Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion	2K Games	0.08	1.71	0.72	2.51
	Marvel: Ultimate Alliance	Activision	0.00	2.45	0.00	2.45
	Madden NFL 08	Electronic Arts	0.00	2.28	0.03	2.31
	Guitar Hero II	RedOctane	0.00	1.84	0.34	2.18
	Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter	Ubisoft	0.02	1.48	0.67	2.17
	Tom Clancy Rainbow Six: Vegas	Ubisoft	0.03	1.40	0.72	2.15
	Call of Duty 3	Spike	0.03	1.35	0.69	2.07
	Call of Duty 2	Activision	0.02	1.43	0.58	2.03
	Mass Effect	Microsoft	0.00	1.48	0.52	2.00
	Saints Row	THQ	0.02	1.22	0.65	1.89
	Bioshock	2K Games	0.03	1.08	0.76	1.87
	Madden NFL 07	Electronic Arts	0.01	1.79	0.04	1.84
	Fight Night Round 3	Electronic Arts	0.01	1.31	0.42	1.74
	Dead Rising	Capcom	0.08	1.15	0.50	1.73
	Rock Band	MTV Games	0.00	1.57	0.11	1.68
	Tom Clancy's Rainbow Six: Vegas 2	Ubisoft	0.02	1.16	0.42	1.60
	Lost Planet: Extreme Condition	Capcom	0.09	1.07	0.43	1.59
	Crackdown	Microsoft	0.04	0.99	0.43	1.46
	Project Gotham Racing 3	Microsoft	0.05	0.62	0.77	1.44
	Need for Speed: Most Wanted	Electronic Arts	0.03	0.90	0.50	1.43
	Perfect Dark Zero	Microsoft	0.04	0.84	0.53	1.41
	Need for Speed: ProStreet	Electronic Arts	0.01	0.83	0.57	1.41
	Tom Clancy Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2	Ubisoft	0.00	0.89	0.49	1.38
	Viva Pinata	Microsoft	0.02	0.52	0.83	1.37
	Need for Speed: Carbon	Electronic Arts	0.03	0.86	0.48	1.37
	WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2008	THQ	0.00	0.92	0.38	1.30
	FIFA 08	Electronic Arts	0.01	0.35	0.94	1.30
	Army of Two	Electronic Arts	0.02	0.94	0.28	1.24
	Tom Clancy Splinter Cell: Double Agent	Ubisoft	0.02	0.69	0.45	1.16
	Pro Evolution Soccer 2008	Konami	0.04	0.04	1.04	1.12
	Kane & Lynch: Dead Men	Eidos Interactive	0.00	0.77	0.33	1.10
	Pro Evolution Soccer 6	Konami	0.02	0.08	0.98	1.08
	Devil May Cry 4	Capcom	0.07	0.70	0.30	1.07
	Dead or Alive 4	Tecmo	0.11	0.38	0.52	1.01
	Project Gotham Racing 4	Microsoft	0.02	0.30	0.68	1.00

14 shooters in the top. So what genres sell the best on the 360? shooters, racers, and sports from what I can tell.