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Words Of Wisdom on 22 July 2008

*Gets on Bioware/Black Isle/Troika soap box and looks down on people who think Bethesda is good.* 

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

*ahem*

That's all. 

*Gets down*



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cwbys21 on 22 July 2008

Diablo 2



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Kyros on 22 July 2008

Ahahahahahahahahahahahaha!


Bethesda has some advantages. Cool graphics and a huge world. Daggerfall back in the days really did amaze me. (And annoy me to hell because many dungeons were unsolvable) Morrowind had an amazing atmosphere. You really felt being in a different huge world. But somehow they are unable to improve the storyline. Especially shivering Isles had the most boring story ever and Oblivion was not much better.

Yes Bioware is better and Black Isle was the best.



shio on 22 July 2008
El Duderino said:

I don´t want to insult anybody.... who am I kidding.... I want to insult as many people as possible.... anyway... if Baldurs Gate 2 (Or 1&2, its one game really) is not your answer you don´t know what you are talking about and should educate yourself as fast as possible... the storytelling, gameplay, atmosphere and all around excellence are unmatched to this day... if you haven´t played this game or dissagree I will respect that... and with all due respect advise you to chain yourself to the biggest rock you can find, spraypaint "Rock of Shame" on it and carry it with yourself at all times untill you have changed your wicked ways...

This. Anyone who never played Baldur's Gate 2 some good amount shouldn't be answering the OP. Though, since there's alot of subjectivity, there are games that could be claimed as best, instead of Bioware's masterpiece: World of Warcraft, Diablo II, Planescape: Torment, Fallout 1&2 and Morrowind for example. They're all top notch.

 



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akuma587 on 22 July 2008

Bioware is alright, but Blizzard's Diablo is the best WRPG ever.

Anybody who says it is Oblivion, which is a great game nonetheless, needs to play more WRPG's.



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Tigawoods on 22 July 2008

Bioware for the company. As far as WRPGs man thats a tough one. I loved KOTOR1 so much but I think i'd have to go with Elder Scrolls Morrowind.



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cwbys21 on 22 July 2008
shio said:
El Duderino said:

I don´t want to insult anybody.... who am I kidding.... I want to insult as many people as possible.... anyway... if Baldurs Gate 2 (Or 1&2, its one game really) is not your answer you don´t know what you are talking about and should educate yourself as fast as possible... the storytelling, gameplay, atmosphere and all around excellence are unmatched to this day... if you haven´t played this game or dissagree I will respect that... and with all due respect advise you to chain yourself to the biggest rock you can find, spraypaint "Rock of Shame" on it and carry it with yourself at all times untill you have changed your wicked ways...

This. Anyone who never played Baldur's Gate 2 some good amount shouldn't be answering the OP. Though, since there's alot of subjectivity, there are games that could be claimed as best, instead of Bioware's masterpiece: World of Warcraft, Diablo II, Planescape: Torment, Fallout 1&2 and Morrowind for example. They're all top notch.

 

baldurs gate was a good game, so was ice wind dale, but they didn't keep my interest for 4 years like Diablo 2 did.

 



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endimion on 22 July 2008
Onyxmeth said:
Groucho said:
Onyxmeth said:

I'm not a big fan of western RPGs. I like to be able to do everything, so the amount of choices and inability to go in every direction makes me feel like I'm missing out on something. Out of the ones i've played, Planescape Torment is my favorite. I also liked Jade Empire very much. I've owned Mass Effect for over three months but I haven't even tried it yet.

 

You say you don't like WRPGs, then you go and describe a JRPG, to describe how you don't like WRPGs. I don't get it.

WRPG: less linear, lots to do and side-quests, 1st- or 3rd-person perspective. You are the character, the story is you-centric, Often with shallow character development, and an occasionally epic plot.

JRPG: totally linear, less freedom and side-quests, but often mini-games. 3rd-person perspective. Often deep character development, with universally cheesy plots.

 

Back to topic:

My fav WRPG... Fallout, although Baldur's Gate 1 and Icewind Dale 1 were pretty epic.

How so? I said I like to do everything and many WRPGs allow you to do too much and in many cases, you can't do everything in one playthrough. This is especially true with a game like Fallout, where as you progress, you make choices that can prove to be undoable for the rest of the game. I then feel I'm missing whatever story or dialogue would have been had I made a different choice. It eats at me. How does any of that have to do with JRPGs?

 

well that's the point of RPG..... you have to make choices and you can't do everything in one playthrough.... that's why I don't even concider most JRPG to be RPG in the first place beside the XP and leveling nothing is remotely close to RPG in JRPG.... but that's me.... I come from the paper RPG world before starting to play them on PC or consoles... that might explain why

 



DMeisterJ on 22 July 2008

Mass Effect.



endimion on 22 July 2008

oh and my answer I'd put baldurs gate, diablo, never winter nights, elder scroll, kotor, and in MMORPG ultima online by far and way over WoW.......