With sales up, and software moving, I would like to know where there loss is? RRoD? Buying exclusives?

Lost money for Q4.
I need some posts in my thread:

http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=34079&start=-0

Tigawoods said: TheSource says: Last 3 months - loss. But for the year ending June 30 they made like $400,000,000. You have to remember though that it includes things like Zune as well. Posted on: 07/17/08, 22:17 The last 3 months according to the chart say -188 while the entire year says 426. (Measured in millions obviously)

 

I could have sworn MS' fiscal year started in Apr.

I don't think the 360 itself is actually making any money. It's just that the other products and services in their Entertainment and Games division have made enough money to usurp the 360's losses.

Does no one else find it odd that even with the Zune and its accessores, Zune marketplace mice, keyboards, and game controllers, mobile software, and games for windows that MS only posted a profit of 89 million dollars last quarter, or am I alone in this?

Lord N said: I don't think the 360 itself is actually making any money. It's just that the other products and services in their Entertainment and Games division have made enough money to usurp the 360's losses. Does no one else find it odd that even with the Zune and its accessores, Zune marketplace mice, keyboards, and game controllers, mobile software, and games for windows that MS only posted a profit of 89 million dollars last quarter, or am I alone in this?

 

 I'm with you. And a loss this quarter...

You need to spend money to make money.

As of three months ago Microsoft still wasn't breaking even on the 360 hardware.

http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microsoft/archives/137377.asp?source=rss

"Does the operating profit mean that the company is no longer losing money on the Xbox 360 hardware?

Colleen Healy, Microsoft's general manager of investor relations, didn't answer that question directly when I asked this afternoon. However, she said, "What I can confirm for you is we're making really good progress on that cost curve.""

I don't know if they have been asked again after this latest quarter but that answer didn't sound like they were close to breaking even on the 360 hardware manufacturing costs.

LOL MATURE said: Tigawoods said: TheSource says: Last 3 months - loss. But for the year ending June 30 they made like $400,000,000. You have to remember though that it includes things like Zune as well. Posted on: 07/17/08, 22:17 The last 3 months according to the chart say -188 while the entire year says 426. (Measured in millions obviously)   I could have sworn MS' fiscal year started in Apr.

No. Their FY is from July 1st to June 30th. Read the article.

Research and development is what they said is being the culprit for increased costs as well as marketing. Plus they had a pretty slow quarter with very few big titles out. (GTA is the only huge one off the top of my head.)

Edit: Also the "Research and Development" rhetoric can mean a lot of different things so unless we get direct info I don't think we can really get any specifcs on what is a draw down on MS. *Awaiting RROD bomb* 

price-cuts and jRPG money-hattings I believe.

MrBubbles said: You need to spend money to make money.

 

Odd that you don't share that same philosophy when Sony loss thread come around.