I currently have a 360. I currently have a Netflix membership of 2 movies a month. I am currently glad that 360 is getting the ability to instantly stream Netflix content.
I currently have a 360. I currently have a Netflix membership of 2 movies a month. I am currently glad that 360 is getting the ability to instantly stream Netflix content.
| Kasz216 said: A. It's not download. it's streaming. B.From the article i quoted. "It's fanless and quiet; has HDMI and optical outputs; and is about the size of five CD cases stacked together. Any Netflix disc mailing plan over $9 gets you unlimited streaming of almost 10,000 titles. Unlimited! 10K titles!" What else is there to mention? Why would this sell consoles? Why would someone buy a 360 to pay for gold membership and a netflix membership? When they could just pay a straight $99? i'm not saying people would buy 360 jsut for this. It simply sweetens the deal. It will have extra sales benefits, that is not an issue you can argue. Isn't it more likely this is going to get more current gold members to pay for Netflix? All this is doing for microsoft is making sure people with Gold members keep up with their service. Seeing as how MS already said Netflix is just a "side option" to MS digital downloading... I know that it really seems that way, but MS is doing this for brand recognition. Netflix is pulling a PS3 here. To gain marketshare over Apple TV and Vhudu in large ways. Netflix is doing this to win their format war. There are rumors of a Sony deal too... likely though Sony wanted a cut from Netflix directly since PS3 online is free.sony has it's own system working and they are renting movies themselves with the backing of every major studio. Sony doesn't want to advocate a company that rents out movies cheaper than the studios want them to be rented out. i really hope you don't think that MS of all people is trying to help Netflix, when they are trying to propogate their own direct streaming/downloading. MS is notoriously known for trying to bring down anyone who is against them. And right now, no studio is on friendly terms with netflix. They want studios to lose enough to the point where digital is the only recourse. Like I said MS would be on the ground floor, Netflix wouldn't have sold a box to 14 million of these people, who MS would have first shot at. There are a lot of different factors, and like I said, before we go pointing fingers at everyone, let's find out if this contract is an exclusivity contract, or whether he simply means exclusive by availability. |


Like I said. It helps both companys. It helps Netflix a LOT more however. Therefore likely there was no need of payment. It's simply a mutual buisness deal.
While this wouldn't help Sony at all on PS3.
So I really don't even get what your argueing then.

i'm simply saying that your not an analyst and i can already think of 5 ways this helps 360 more than netflix.
If anything, this is a quick cash in for netflix for the sacrifice of more money over time.
sacrificing first party control for a larger market base... seems like netflix is feeling some pressure from something outside.


| Kasz216 said: Like I said. It helps both companys. It helps Netflix a LOT more however. Therefore likely there was no need of payment. It's simply a mutual buisness deal. While this wouldn't help Sony at all on PS3. So I really don't even get what your argueing then. |
Y wouldnt it help Sony? NextFlix would be for free on PSN.......Hence more buisness for netflix...and better services for Sony.... why would Sony refuse that?
antfromtashkent said:
Y wouldnt it help Sony? NextFlix would be for free on PSN.......Hence more buisness for netflix...and better services for Sony.... why would Sony refuse that? |
The same reason Sony doesn't have PS2 backwords compatability in it's PS3.
It would cut into sales. Sales of their downloads rental service and cut into sales of Blu-ray and DVD copies of their films.
Hurting their bottom line.

| theprof00 said: i'm simply saying that your not an analyst and i can already think of 5 ways this helps 360 more than netflix. If anything, this is a quick cash in for netflix for the sacrifice of more money over time.
sacrificing first party control for a larger market base... seems like netflix is feeling some pressure from something outside. |
Yeah, Blockbuster for one which is eating away at their main buisness method.
That and the fact they know their service is on the decline as digital content delivered on demand is the way of the future... and they want that future to be them.
Apple TV is planning a new, larger realauch, Vhudu is becoming popular. They know they need to evolve or die. This insures they won't get beat out in the long term.

http://www.siliconvalley.com/ci_9879195
"Xbox Live users who have a Netflix account will be able to watch streaming movies from the service concurrently with up to 7 other online friends, including those who don't have a Netflix subscription."
"Don Mattrick, Microsoft's senior vice president of interactive entertainment, predicted that, thanks in part to the updates, the Xbox 360 would outsell Sony's rival PlayStation 3 this console cycle."
http://labuzzblog.com/2008/07/14/e3-2008-xbox-360-rocks-new-avatars/
I dunno how credible this "news" is but it states a specific exclusive contract.
So your facts are
360 thinks this is going to help increase sales or close the sales gaps to the tune of (what do we see every week, in comparison to ps3?) 50k consoles per week?
You then see how people with the account can share it with up to seven people, which realistically will cut netflix subscriptions on the 360 to maybe half of what was possible. And they are not allowed to pursue any other vg console venues.
sounds like this is MS' game if you ask me
BTW: i think this pretty much ensures them being beaten out in the long term if they start doing deals like this.


the only thing I see... live streaming on demand is the only way to go in the future, finally someone is actually getting a good idea in the IS/IT industry.... i'm tired of those useless format war of digital support when technically the only thing it does better than the rest is taking space on my shelves and keeping dust....
now lets develope cloud and grid computing.... and we won't need to worry about anything else than having a screen a sound system and a multimedia box receiver, and a very high speed connection
no need of a PC or a player or even a console.....
the future is all about software and services.... but people have problems to get that... they need their piece of crap in their hands to be happy for now, it's changing, and it's changing fast, you better like it because it won't ask you for your opinion

not weird. There were rumors going back to the beggining of the year, and people even voted (even me)
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