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tallgnome on 16 July 2008

@Kasz

Well in a fiscal policy we want to increase government spending during a recession. By increasing government spending it will "suppose to help us"(forgot to mention that not always do these policies work cause we might have corrupted government officials or what we expect the people of our country to do not do) by creating future benefits or creating more government jobs. There are a lot of benefits by doing so but not always will it work.



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Kasz216 on 16 July 2008
tallgnome said:

@Kasz

Well in a fiscal policy we want to increase government spending during a recession. By increasing government spending it will "suppose to help us"(forgot to mention that not always do these policies work cause we might have corrupted government officials or what we expect the people of our country to do not do) by creating future benefits or creating more government jobs. There are a lot of benefits by doing so but not always will it work.

Both have plans to do that.

The difference is. McCain wants to get rid of the wasteful spending, and focus on the spending that actually helps us... basically cut out the corruption.

Both for example are for the building of "Green Energy Jobs." more or less anyway... Obama seems oddly fixated on corn ethanol... which is just bad.

By doing both that and cutting the corporate tax you increase jobs on "both ends" private and Public. Instead of just having to provide government jobs because the public sector jobs are all drying up.



kirby007 on 16 July 2008

probably, i don't really mind if its gonna be mccain or barack he will be anyway much better then bush



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MontanaHatchet on 16 July 2008
Kasz216 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Kasz216 said:
It's suggested anwyay through research nobody has dug up any bodys and done any testing though.

Obama should win. Sadly he's taken a page out of the Bush book election wise. He's misleading people left and right...

if you actually pay attention to his polcies you'd be shocked how conservative he is... if it wasn't for the fact that he was Pro-Choice you would mistake him for the republican candidate.

I'm sure his advisors told him to be as Conservative as he could be, which is a shame. He probably won't follow 90% of the policies he said he would when he gets into office, which is actually pretty typical for most incumbents in this country. The buzz word this election seems to be change, so I wish people would change to the party not fucking this country over.

 

He was saying these things during the democratic primaries too... when his main strategy was to come behind the Clintons and grab the liberals. It's just everybody ignored it.

Well a lot of it anwyay.

During the primaires he was talking about permanet bases in iraq, but just didn't phrase it like that. The only thing that has really changed since he hit the main elections is Nafta. Suddenly he's pro Nafta and pro free market.

I didn't pay attention to the primaries THAT closely, but it seems like strategy had the opposite effect...

 



 

 

yubitme on 16 July 2008

I don't care if he is black, white, or green. I want him to win and will vote for him.



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Kasz216 on 16 July 2008
MontanaHatchet said:
Kasz216 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Kasz216 said:
It's suggested anwyay through research nobody has dug up any bodys and done any testing though.

Obama should win. Sadly he's taken a page out of the Bush book election wise. He's misleading people left and right...

if you actually pay attention to his polcies you'd be shocked how conservative he is... if it wasn't for the fact that he was Pro-Choice you would mistake him for the republican candidate.

I'm sure his advisors told him to be as Conservative as he could be, which is a shame. He probably won't follow 90% of the policies he said he would when he gets into office, which is actually pretty typical for most incumbents in this country. The buzz word this election seems to be change, so I wish people would change to the party not fucking this country over.

 

He was saying these things during the democratic primaries too... when his main strategy was to come behind the Clintons and grab the liberals. It's just everybody ignored it.

Well a lot of it anwyay.

During the primaires he was talking about permanet bases in iraq, but just didn't phrase it like that. The only thing that has really changed since he hit the main elections is Nafta. Suddenly he's pro Nafta and pro free market.

I didn't pay attention to the primaries THAT closely, but it seems like strategy had the opposite effect...

 

Really?  Cause he did take all the liberals, really leftwing people and such.  Mostly because people didn't really listen to what he was saying... just how he was saying it.

 



Leetgeek on 16 July 2008
Kasz216 said:
It's suggested anwyay through research nobody has dug up any bodys and done any testing though.

Obama should win. Sadly he's taken a page out of the Bush book election wise. He's misleading people left and right...

if you actually pay attention to his polcies you'd be shocked how conservative he is... if it wasn't for the fact that he was Pro-Choice you would mistake him for the republican candidate.

Actually DNA testing has confirmed it.

 

 



MontanaHatchet on 16 July 2008
Kasz216 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Kasz216 said:
MontanaHatchet said:
Kasz216 said:
It's suggested anwyay through research nobody has dug up any bodys and done any testing though.

Obama should win. Sadly he's taken a page out of the Bush book election wise. He's misleading people left and right...

if you actually pay attention to his polcies you'd be shocked how conservative he is... if it wasn't for the fact that he was Pro-Choice you would mistake him for the republican candidate.

I'm sure his advisors told him to be as Conservative as he could be, which is a shame. He probably won't follow 90% of the policies he said he would when he gets into office, which is actually pretty typical for most incumbents in this country. The buzz word this election seems to be change, so I wish people would change to the party not fucking this country over.

 

He was saying these things during the democratic primaries too... when his main strategy was to come behind the Clintons and grab the liberals. It's just everybody ignored it.

Well a lot of it anwyay.

During the primaires he was talking about permanet bases in iraq, but just didn't phrase it like that. The only thing that has really changed since he hit the main elections is Nafta. Suddenly he's pro Nafta and pro free market.

I didn't pay attention to the primaries THAT closely, but it seems like strategy had the opposite effect...

 

Really?  Cause he did take all the liberals, really leftwing people and such.  Mostly because people didn't really listen to what he was saying... just how he was saying it.

 

I remember looking at the primaries, and Obama won a LOT of Red states. Hillary won a couple too, but it seemed that it depended on the dominant minority there (Hillary won the Southwest, Obama won the Southeast). Both won liberal votes.......because they're Democrats.

 



 

 

Bursche on 16 July 2008

He probably will. I am supporting McCain because I think he could do one really good term to fix all of our problems we currently have. I only see McCain going for one term, but thats all he needs. Obama needs more experience in my oppinion, I would want him to run in 2012.

No matter what though, whoever is elected is going to be screwed.



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Kasz216 on 16 July 2008
Leetgeek said:
Kasz216 said:
It's suggested anwyay through research nobody has dug up any bodys and done any testing though.

Obama should win. Sadly he's taken a page out of the Bush book election wise. He's misleading people left and right...

if you actually pay attention to his polcies you'd be shocked how conservative he is... if it wasn't for the fact that he was Pro-Choice you would mistake him for the republican candidate.

Actually DNA testing has confirmed it.

 

I mean jefferson having black relatives not him sleeping with slaves. Unless they did genetic mapping on him.

I'm sure at least 30% of the people who had slaves slept with them.