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Sweet. If they ever go as low as $50-70 I might buy one.



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epsilon72 said:
Sweet. If they ever go as low as $50-70 I might buy one.
If it ever gets that low, it would mean that Toshiba had given up.

 



I wonder since Warner will drop HD DVD support and now there is only two studios with market share for HD DVD releases, does this mean that Universal and Paramount get better sales than any of the Blu-Ray studios? They could become the envy of the other studios and maybe that will encourage them to go dual format.



 

 

 

 

 

But Blu-Ray's overall marketshare is already larger than HD DVD, and will only increase further as the notion that Warner ended the format spreads.

Sure, Universal and Paramount will each have around 50% HD DVD marketshare, but the Blu-Ray backing studios will be content with smaller pieces of a much larger pie.



Blu-Ray may never be as big as DVD (though the movie/retailer industry may cause it to be if they force consumers to adopt by eventually dropping DVD's altogether like they did with VHS because the profit returns were higher on DVD), but the interest in it will grow.

How many people did you hear say that VHS was good enough for them and they wouldn't buy DVD's? What are they all buying now? I am not saying the two situations are exactly parallel, but comparing Blu-Ray to DVD's growth rate at a similar point in time shows that Blu-Ray isn't that far behind where we can reasonably expect it to be, and may actually be further.

Even if every single person you know doesn't buy a Blu-Ray player, it doesn't mean that studios will not release all their current and older movies on Blu-Ray, which is what really matters to those of us who care about hi-def media.



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bbsin said:
HD-DVD fire sale.
HDDVD players going from $130-$170.
http://www.dailytech.com/Toshiba+Launches+HD+DVD+Player+Fire+Sale/article10318.htm

 

The funny thing is this site actually has it wrong, Toshiba has put out a new MSRP of 149 for the A3. Witch means you will see at these discounted prices permanently.




 

Toshiba seem to be more interested in trying to break up the market but i think people will realise that paying even $150 is a rip-off  because there soon wont be any titles made in HD-DVD,  with  the loss of  warner and likly paramount will instantly go blu when they get a chance. An  $150 HD-DVD player is effectivly useless, while at the same time there are plenty of cheap blu-ray players appearing , as well as the PS3 comming down in price.

Also the primary cost to go 1080p is actually the display. The cost of a player or other source is insignificant. If you can afford a 1080p display for $2000+ you may as well be able to watch stuff on it too so blu-ray with 70% market makes more sense.  Getting a HD-DVD only player is pointless since you wont be able to get any titles for it and have effectivly wasted $2000 on a 1080p display , getting a multiformat or blu-ray player means you can actually use it.

With the huge blu-ray games market probably well over 10million plus 3million movies the price of blu-ray manufacture per disk is now likley to be far lower than that of HD-DVD disks which have only sold 2 million.  Given the bulk discounting possible with the large blu-ray market, prices for manufactures and consumers will likely benefit. There is a good reason why warner and many others are going blu-ray exclusive in 2008.

 



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Now that HDDVD is dead lets end these threads about the HD wars.



It is important for HD-DVD (mostly just Toshiba now) to completely throw in the towel so that we don't have a limping format that still eats into high-def media sales overall, which once they get higher means more movie options, and eventually lower prices, for people like us.



We had two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high-powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers…Also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls.  The only thing that really worried me was the ether.  There is nothing in the world more helpless and irresponsible and depraved than a man in the depths of an ether binge. –Raoul Duke

It is hard to shed anything but crocodile tears over White House speechwriter Patrick Buchanan's tragic analysis of the Nixon debacle. "It's like Sisyphus," he said. "We rolled the rock all the way up the mountain...and it rolled right back down on us...."  Neither Sisyphus nor the commander of the Light Brigade nor Pat Buchanan had the time or any real inclination to question what they were doing...a martyr, to the bitter end, to a "flawed" cause and a narrow, atavistic concept of conservative politics that has done more damage to itself and the country in less than six years than its liberal enemies could have done in two or three decades. -Hunter S. Thompson

Numbers are in for the week ending 1/13, from Home Media Mag:

85:15 BD:HD

The product announcements come in a week when the top 10 high-definition disc sellers are all Blu-ray Disc releases, according to an analysis of Nielsen VideoScan First Alert sales numbers by Home Media Magazine’s market research department.

Net HD DVD sales, according to Nielsen, constituted only 15% of hi-def disc sales last week. And the top HD DVD seller, The Kingdom, sold just 10% as many copies as the top Blu-ray Disc release, 3:10 to Yuma.
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