Looks like getting the cheap players out there is making a difference, at least on amazon.

http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/

This christmas should be interesting.

You put the same ONE WORD, does not make the implications of it right. It's still old news, in a new region, and will not likely have the effect you are implying. 

No it doesn't make anything correct or incorrect necessarily knight. My point was that if 70K Blu-rays and 46K HDDVDs have been sold thus far in Germany, the fact that HD-DVD has been out for a while before Blu-ray only *suggests* , not proves that the ratio is better than it looks from the numbers given.

And my point is that it's happening in other regions, so you got interesting in something that's not unique, nor should be that interesting.

Plus I remember you posting an article claming that blu-ray should be outselling HD-DVD 4:1 in Europe,* so you are really stretching with this.

*The 4:1 ratio was just reported for the UK (and I know this because an official PDF from the BDA itself states that it's just for the UK), but a lot of you twisted it to mean all of Europe. 

Knight, we are really saying the same thing. Look my eyes are rolling over here because i'm saying, just like you are, that Bd is whompin some tail over in Europe. Why don't you go find some pro-HD-DVD news? Oh wait there isn't any when there are no big promos going on

I just posted some, so you aren't even paying attention. No wonder you think what you posted is "interesting". 

Ohhh ok.....Disney voted for the 51g HD-DVD disc oh that's some really big news nightknight.

Never mind the fact that the CEO of disney has denigrated HD-DVD several times (saying that paramount made a big mistake in moving over to HDDud), or that Disney is BD exclusive, or that Disney beleives in BD so much that they have recently been going on the "magical mystery tour" promoting Blu-ray. Disney was probably hedging their bets, that if the impossible situation of Blu-ray losing does happen, then they are saying that they would be ok with a 51g disc. I can't figure out what else they could possibly be saying.

In the battle between Blu Ray and HDDVD, the victor will be online media distribution:

iTunes
1,300,000
From period: Sept. 12, 2006 - Jan 10, 2007

HD-DVD
650,000
From period: March 31, 2006 - March 9, 2007

Blu-Ray
675,000
From period: March 3, 2003 - March 9, 2007

If they can't even outsell the blasted iTunes store when HDDVD and Blu Ray sales are COMBINED, what chance do they have of pushing into the mainstream and being adopted as a new standard?

The upgrade from VHS to DVD made sense: there was a HUGE increase in quality on existing television hardware, DVDs are smaller, don't wear out like VHS and offered a bevy of features like menus, deleted scenes, etc.

If you need to buy a more expensive TV, a more expensive player and more expensive media for a marginal increase in quality, then people aren't going to make the jump, and the fact that people are buying more movies for their iPods than their HDTVs says to me that this is definitely the case.

HDDVD and BluRay will be squabbling and bickering until the end, completely unaware of the massive form of online distribution approaching from the shadows.

My point is that your news is of little consequence. At least when it's a distibution chain, it can have some effect, but finding out Germany roughly mirrors the North American market is not real news.

BTW, you must be delusional if you think you know the outcome of this war bettter than you think Disney does (which is what the contrast between "impossible" and "hedging their bets" means). 

iTunes sells their songs for 1/30th the price of hi-def films. That's not a valid comparison. It's like comparing beer keg sales to six pack sales.

BTW, link or the sales (for all three) didn't happen.