okok you're correct

I looked around and finally found some HD-DVD news.  Actually, this is pretty bad for the HDDVD group, and may even be a signal that warner is losing faith in the brand, which isn't a good thing for them.  Honestly, I thought that Warner's Total HD effort was the last chance that Hd-DUD had b/c it would make choice of player or the PS3 advantage thing irrelevant.  Take a look at my copy paste job:

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http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Industry_Trends/Total_HD/Warner/Warner_Shelves_Total_HD_Hybrid_Disc_Plans/1147

Speaking exclusively with High-Def Digest, Warner Home Entertainment says its previously announced HD DVD/Blu-ray hybrid disc won't be hitting stores anytime soon.

As we've previously reported, the studio made a splash when it unveiled Total HD earlier this year at the Consumer Electronics Show, proposing it to the industry and consumers alike as a solution to the ongoing format war. Containing a Blu-ray layer on one side of the disc and an HD DVD layer on the other, the studio said the hybrid disc would retail for little more than a single-format title, and that it planned to have its first releases in stores by the second half of the year.

Roughly six months later, Warner announced it was pushing back its launch plans for Total HD until early 2008, but said it remained committed to the concept, promising ten to twenty launch titles upon the format's eventual release.

Though the studio had since remained mum on the status of its plans for the hybrid format, a Warner exec has now confirmed to High-Def Digest that all current plans for Total HD have been shelved in response to a perceived shift in retailer needs following Paramount's move to HD DVD exclusivity.

"The short answer is, for the moment, it [Total HD] is on hold," explained Jim Noonan, SVP of Strategic Promotion and Communication for Warner Home Entertainment Group. "We're the only studio producing content in both formats. If we were to put out Total HD with just our titles, it wouldn't really provide the solution to our retail partners that it was intended to provide. If anything, at this point, it would further complicate their life, because there would be another product looking for shelf space. Our job is not to further complicate the lives of our retailers."

As for the possibility that Total HD might still see the light of day should other studios go format-neutral, Noonan certainly didn't rule it out.

"Total HD was something that we offered up to the industry as a solution that would address buyer hesitancy, and the concern a consumer might have about the possible obsolesce of the hardware they were buying. We have no proprietary interest in Total HD. There is no patent we're involved in, and there is no monetary reward for us if another studio decides to put out titles on Total HD. It was offered purely as an industry solution -- and it is still a good and viable solution that has no expiration date."

I think Disney was bought, just subtly. Remember how they are the only studio with audacity to make their own DVD trademark, "Disney DVD", when there is nothing different about the discs to deserve that branding? Something tells me the HD-DVD camp wouldn't let Disney do that again, but the BDA did. Now Disney gets to have the "Disney Blu-ray Disc", and guess what? Those are the exact same discs as every other blu-ray disc.

That isn't bad news for HD-DVD. You twisting the facts won't help blu-ray win.

"I think Disney was bought, just subtly. Remember how they are the only studio with audacity to make their own DVD trademark, "Disney DVD", when there is nothing different about the discs to deserve that branding? Something tells me the HD-DVD camp wouldn't let Disney do that again, but the BDA did. Now Disney gets to have the "Disney Blu-ray Disc", and guess what? Those are the exact same discs as every other blu-ray disc"

oh definitely knight, but the thing of it is that Blu ray's greater level of market support means that they can buy someone else's support for a lot less $$$$ than it would take for HD-DVD to buy support. That is why they have been able to do so much MORE of these exclusivity kinds of deals

I'm just giving my interpretation of warner's decision and I think that it would be quite rational for a studio to give HD-DVD less support if it feels that HDDVD's future looks bad.

"oh definitely knight, but the thing of it is that Blu ray's greater level of market support means that they can buy someone else's support for a lot less $$$$ than it would take for HD-DVD to buy support. That is why they have been able to do so much MORE of these exclusivity kinds of deals"

Liar. Disney went exclusive before blu-ray went on the market. See? Twisting facts.

"I'm just giving my interpretation of warner's decision and I think that it would be quite rational for a studio to give HD-DVD less support if it feels that HDDVD's future looks bad."

Your biased interpretation doesn't mean it's actually bad for HD-DVD, especially with Sony's CEO conceding HD-DVD isn't going away.

I didnt mention nor was referring to disney at all.  Jeeze where does your logic come from?  Crack + meth , obviously. 

No, my point was that for any two competing brands, the one having better sales ( BD ) will find it cheaper to get these exclusivity deals because it would be less of a loss in revenue for any company previously wishing to do business with both.

You wrote about the greater level of market support. That doesn't happen without either good sales, or a lot of offers being made. Since blu-ray wasn't on sale when Disney went over*, it was the latter, so it couldn't have been support bought for less, since there wasn't bargaining room to make the support for less.

So you twisted facts.

*And your "the one having better sales" comment is just an outright lie.

Wow, Lord... getting all defensive, calling him a liar, bias, etc. I think we have us a die hard HDDVD fan here.

BTW, I could use your "Bias interpretation" argument for every PS3 hate thread here, yet the mods leave the threads open and call it fair because he's "backing up his opinion", so what's your point?

Oh, and let me guess the next move. Quote a few specific cases, bold some things, say I don't understand what's going on, and generally continue to disregard good "news."