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Kasz216 on 11 July 2008

Oh... also when it comes to FF1-6. You could see what the characters look like in their concept art.

I'd argue that "The Empire" in FF6 were mostly inspired by the Nazis. What with their WW2 style outfits and them all giving Gehstal the Nazi Salute.



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DTG on 11 July 2008
Kasz216 said:
DTG said:
Kasz216 said:
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Kasz216 said:
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Yes I find it discriminating and even offensive that all war games seem to be based on the US perspective. I'm sure there would be quite a market in Europe, Asia and obviously the Middle East that would enjoy playing a War game from Iraqi perspective or that of the Russians.


If someone would really like to play a game from the russians perspective in any conflict they really must have the blinders on when it comes to history.

The USSR was worse then the Nazis during WW2.

 

I think most of the world looks at the US right now with such contempt that they find it comparable to most "evil" regimes of the past.

 

That said, the US did a lot of dirty things during the Cold War not just Russia.


Did the US kill millions of it's own people?

I think you vastly overestimate the negativity towards the US... that it's seen as bad as Stalin's russia or Hitler's Germany.

 

People see the US as exerting it's dominance and control through economic, cultural, politicaL and military means. It doesn't need to kill vast amounts of people to be a totalitarian regime in this day and age. The common term "imperialist" when applied to the US sums it up quite well. The US is controlling and expansionist but it does so through economy and culture and it's political weight rather than guns (though Iraq is an example of the US becoming more aggressive in expanding it's influence)

Riiight.... cause because US culture is popular throughout the world.... the US still has a pretty powerful (though by no means controlling) economy...

It's as bad as Nazi Germany and Communist Russia who systematically killed millions of their own people.

The US can't get anything done. No country can this day in age. The invasion of Iraq actually is a sign of that... because the UN couldn't even get a few inspectors in to a few buildings of a poor nation that was universally despised.

Heck. America isn't even anywhere near as bad as Colonization era Europe when it comes to this shit.

Most Europeans I know actually see Iraq/Sadam as the lesser of two evils compared to Bush and the US.

US colonization is worse than that of European but is not as obvious because it is economic, cultural and political. `World Police" quite accurately described US's systematic exertion of control over world politics, pursuining it's own interests at the expense of others  in parts of the world completely unrelated to it.

 

 



Kasz216 on 11 July 2008
DTG said:
Kasz216 said:
DTG said:
Kasz216 said:
DTG said:
Kasz216 said:
DTG said:
Yes I find it discriminating and even offensive that all war games seem to be based on the US perspective. I'm sure there would be quite a market in Europe, Asia and obviously the Middle East that would enjoy playing a War game from Iraqi perspective or that of the Russians.


If someone would really like to play a game from the russians perspective in any conflict they really must have the blinders on when it comes to history.

The USSR was worse then the Nazis during WW2.

 

I think most of the world looks at the US right now with such contempt that they find it comparable to most "evil" regimes of the past.

 

That said, the US did a lot of dirty things during the Cold War not just Russia.


Did the US kill millions of it's own people?

I think you vastly overestimate the negativity towards the US... that it's seen as bad as Stalin's russia or Hitler's Germany.

 

People see the US as exerting it's dominance and control through economic, cultural, politicaL and military means. It doesn't need to kill vast amounts of people to be a totalitarian regime in this day and age. The common term "imperialist" when applied to the US sums it up quite well. The US is controlling and expansionist but it does so through economy and culture and it's political weight rather than guns (though Iraq is an example of the US becoming more aggressive in expanding it's influence)

Riiight.... cause because US culture is popular throughout the world.... the US still has a pretty powerful (though by no means controlling) economy...

It's as bad as Nazi Germany and Communist Russia who systematically killed millions of their own people.

The US can't get anything done. No country can this day in age. The invasion of Iraq actually is a sign of that... because the UN couldn't even get a few inspectors in to a few buildings of a poor nation that was universally despised.

Heck. America isn't even anywhere near as bad as Colonization era Europe when it comes to this shit.

Most Europeans I know actually see Iraq/Sadam as the lesser of two evils compared to Bush and the US.

US colonization is worse than that of European but is not as obvious because it is economic, cultural and political. `World Police" quite accurately described US's systematic exertion of control over world politics, pursuining it's own interests at the expense of others in parts of the world completely unrelated to it.

 

 

That's exactly what Europe and the EU does as well DTG.  Or what China does in Africa... for example their support of the problems in the Sudan and other genocidal areas.

How you call what America is doing worse then the complete desolation of a continent i'll never know.



Ajax on 11 July 2008

Guys keep it about artstyles and anime. This I think might have a lot less to do with Euro-American influence than you think. At least the anime part; commercial games do have a lot to do with it; but looking at anime broader, then I just said in my other post what I think about it.



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DTG on 11 July 2008
mrstickball said:
DTG said:

People see the US as exerting it's dominance and control through economic, cultural, politicaL and military means. It doesn't need to kill vast amounts of people to be a totalitarian regime in this day and age. The common term "imperialist" when applied to the US sums it up quite well. The US is controlling and expansionist but it does so through economy and culture and it's political weight rather than guns (though Iraq is an example of the US becoming more aggressive in expanding it's influence)

.....And how is China, or Europe doing that any differently? Both are exerting their dominance in their own spheres of influence as well.

But again, to compare an "imperialist" United States with historical nations that killed and brutalized millions of people is quite a stretch, no?

 

 

Death? The US promotes murder all across the world, it is well known that the CIA sponsors terrorist factions aligning to US interests all around the world. Just because the US doesn't muder it's own doesn't mean it doesn't keep them under it's thumb while spreading it's arm across the world.

Whether death or lack of "real" freedom (which the US does not provide contrary to government rhetoric) veiled by an illusionary "liberty/democracy"  is a worse fate is debatable.



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Kasz216 on 11 July 2008
DTG said:
mrstickball said:
DTG said:

People see the US as exerting it's dominance and control through economic, cultural, politicaL and military means. It doesn't need to kill vast amounts of people to be a totalitarian regime in this day and age. The common term "imperialist" when applied to the US sums it up quite well. The US is controlling and expansionist but it does so through economy and culture and it's political weight rather than guns (though Iraq is an example of the US becoming more aggressive in expanding it's influence)

.....And how is China, or Europe doing that any differently? Both are exerting their dominance in their own spheres of influence as well.

But again, to compare an "imperialist" United States with historical nations that killed and brutalized millions of people is quite a stretch, no?

 

 

Death? The US promotes murder all across the world, it is well known that the CIA sponsors terrorist factions aligning to US interests all around the world. Just because the US doesn't muder it's own doesn't mean it doesn't keep them under it's thumb while spreading it's arm across the world.

Whether death or lack of "real" freedom (which the US does not provide contrary to government rhetoric) is a worse fate is debatable.

So do Europeon countries?  So... your point falls flat.

 



mrstickball on 11 July 2008
DTG said:

Most Europeans I know actually see Iraq/Sadam as the lesser of two evils compared to Bush and the US.

US colonization is worse than that of European but is not as obvious because it is economic, cultural and political. `World Police" quite accurately described US's systematic exertion of control over world politics, pursuining it's own interests at the expense of others  in parts of the world completely unrelated to it. 

Mind giving examples of how the US is exerting control over entire continents and fighting wars in every part of the globe, again?

 

 



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DTG on 11 July 2008
Kasz216 said:
DTG said:
mrstickball said:
DTG said:

People see the US as exerting it's dominance and control through economic, cultural, politicaL and military means. It doesn't need to kill vast amounts of people to be a totalitarian regime in this day and age. The common term "imperialist" when applied to the US sums it up quite well. The US is controlling and expansionist but it does so through economy and culture and it's political weight rather than guns (though Iraq is an example of the US becoming more aggressive in expanding it's influence)

.....And how is China, or Europe doing that any differently? Both are exerting their dominance in their own spheres of influence as well.

But again, to compare an "imperialist" United States with historical nations that killed and brutalized millions of people is quite a stretch, no?

 

 

Death? The US promotes murder all across the world, it is well known that the CIA sponsors terrorist factions aligning to US interests all around the world. Just because the US doesn't muder it's own doesn't mean it doesn't keep them under it's thumb while spreading it's arm across the world.

Whether death or lack of "real" freedom (which the US does not provide contrary to government rhetoric) is a worse fate is debatable.

So do Europeon countries? So... your point falls flat.

 

 

Europe has not pursued it's foreign policy nearly as aggressively as the US and CIA has the past 50 years. Hence the term World Police being exclusiovely assigned to describe the policies of the US.



MrBubbles on 11 July 2008
DTG said:

Most Europeans I know actually see Iraq/Sadam as the lesser of two evils compared to Bush and the US.

 

 

Jealousy can do that.



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Kasz216 on 11 July 2008
DTG said:
Kasz216 said:
DTG said:
mrstickball said:
DTG said:

People see the US as exerting it's dominance and control through economic, cultural, politicaL and military means. It doesn't need to kill vast amounts of people to be a totalitarian regime in this day and age. The common term "imperialist" when applied to the US sums it up quite well. The US is controlling and expansionist but it does so through economy and culture and it's political weight rather than guns (though Iraq is an example of the US becoming more aggressive in expanding it's influence)

.....And how is China, or Europe doing that any differently? Both are exerting their dominance in their own spheres of influence as well.

But again, to compare an "imperialist" United States with historical nations that killed and brutalized millions of people is quite a stretch, no?

 

 

Death? The US promotes murder all across the world, it is well known that the CIA sponsors terrorist factions aligning to US interests all around the world. Just because the US doesn't muder it's own doesn't mean it doesn't keep them under it's thumb while spreading it's arm across the world.

Whether death or lack of "real" freedom (which the US does not provide contrary to government rhetoric) is a worse fate is debatable.

So do Europeon countries? So... your point falls flat.

 

 

Europe has not pursued it's foreign policy nearly as aggressively as the US and CIA has the past 50 years. Hence the term World Police being exclusiovely assigned to describe the policies of the US.

No it's exclusivly assigned to describe the polcies of the US because the US is still the most powerful nation in the world. 

Though nowhere near the silly levels of power you attribute to it.