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vizunary on 16 June 2007
ItsaMii said:
Just remember that cheating in a game is like paying for sex. No matter how good it is you can not brag about it to your friends.

I don't know about that, I once had a....................... LOL



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fooflexible on 16 June 2007
ItsaMii said:
fooflexible said:
ItsaMii said:
I said that as joke you do not need to get so worked up. I agree to your point that crappy games are not worth your (our) time. But what is the point in beating them with cheats? Just go to game endings or read a plot Faq at gamefaqs. I am not doubting your game abilities, but if use even a turbo controller in one part of the game and beat it on hard, someone who finished on easy will say you are not good enough. Bragging about beating a hard game is not sad at all. If you finish a game that is considered near impossible you must brag about it. Devil may Cry and Battletoads are good examples. I finished the Battletoads for Snes (near impossible) using a code that raise your lives from 3 to 5 and continues from 3 to 5. I barely used a continue and had lot o lives left but I can not I BEAT Battletoads in Battlemaniacs. Get my point: beating the game the right way is part of the fun.

I am graduating at University in less than a month so please do not talk to me like I am a kid that like to brag about useless stuff. Please do not consider my post an act of aggression its just that I am some kind of anti-cheat maniac. For example: One time my friend told me the answer to a question in a hard test, I left it blank knowing I would not have it answered on my own.

First off, dude your right, I don't need to get worked up. Sorry for that. I've been coming off like a jerk alot lately, don't intend too. I think I was unloading on gamers that give me arrogance about cheating, while you were clearly just joking around. Didn't mean to go off on you. And my point again wasn't to insult you. I'm more or less saying, I guess I'm not a great gamer, never really was, I used to love adventure games and they didn't really require great skill, and alot of games these days are fairly easy. And I guess you can say I really only cheat when I'm totally stuck or gave up on a game and at that point there is no pride because I've basically decided I can't beat it. And since I find myself more talented at other things like drawing, playing guitar and writing(trying to get a novel published(or more like sadly gave up on that idea as I've failed to get an agent)) I find that gaming to me has become less of a skill and more of a passive hobby. For example FF I don't even care about leveling up I've entirely cheated in that department because all I want to do is watch the cut scenes.(I just realized you mentioned this game earlier) And watching the cutscenes is more satisifying then reading the ending on the internet, heck even beating people while invincible is fun, sometimes it's even more fun. Other games I find are only fun when cheating, like the Sims is a rather boring and annoying game until you give yourself unlimited amounts of money to actually get time to do fun things. The old command and Conquer games too(which I've got pretty far without cheating) are fun to cheat too, there is nothing like watching a 100 guys launch rockets all at the same time.

I respect your anti-cheat vibe, it's just that in gaming I feel like getting stuck is equal to buying a movie and then it pause half way through to tell me I can't watch the end until I can answer some trivia question and since I don't know the answer the movie will sit on my shelf for the rest of it's life unifinished. That to me I hate more then anything.


No problem. I also would like to apologize if I was rude at any point.

I agree that using trainers on a boring or game with no goals is almost ok. If you finished the game why waste 20 hours killing the same enemy for 10000 of the same item to get the ultimate sword in a game? FF7 has some debug room feature where you can skip to any part in the game. I remember wasting more than 10 hours on Kingdom Hearts 2 to get the ultima Weapon and that after beating the secret boss Sephiroth. Even though I have not cheated I felt cheated. Come on Square give me back that 10 hours of life wasted in useless sidequests. I also agree that getting stuck and putting the game on the shelf sucks. So far the only game that I HAD to cheat to beat was True Lies for Snes (so much for a crappy game).


 Yeah that's crazy. I have played through tons of games recently I've played 118 hours of Pokemon trying to get a ful Dex which I'm realizing now is impossible. some of the guys like the gold/siler starters you'll need to get off other games like I think if Fire Red at the very end of the game after playing 50 hours you'll get to choose 1 of the 3 gold/silver starters and you'll have to replay the entire game two more times to get the other two. A friend of mine has played 250 hours and hardly has 200 out of 483 pokemon.

I've beaten Ogre Battle 64 with over a 100 hours too, that was good and fun to beat on my own although Ogre Battle on the GBA was annoying. Not the game itself but the levels, I spent hours leveling up my main character just to find out the game is designed to autmatically make the enemies' teams at your main character's level or one below or above, and the leader is always two above your leader. So if you leveled up your other guys it got easier, if you leveled up just your leader it got harder. How stupid is that? So of course I didn't bother leveling up the leader, what's the point of wasting time leveling him up, just to make the game harder, it really ruined the whole game's balance. I love Zelda's difficulty level it's very comfortable, I could beat them all without question on my own. My last victim to be shelved was Red Steel, that bothered me alot, because I was very good at it, and right at the end the sword fights became impossible, I replayed this scene like 30 times and could barely hit this guy twice. I was just done at that point.

Hardest game though I've ever played: Hacker 2: The Doomsday Papers. It's an old DOS(1986) game thats abandonware now, I played it so many times, You have to beat it in a time limit you have to hack into security,  break into a building with a robot and steal papers from a safe(keep in mind there are times you can't even see what you are doing until you actually hack the cameras, it's totally crazy, I only twice got close to the safe. I was young when I got it and just kept playing it and playing it, I can't tell you how many hours, and I found out later, I was never even close to half way through, after you get the papers and escape, you find out you were working for the wrong people and now you have to go back and do it again to put them back all harder this time around. And or course you can't save in the game at all. It burns me to this day.