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First, I love all video games.  Kiddie, near-porn, ultra violent, and so on.  However, I have a young gamer in the house and I'm growing tired of constantly trying to figure out what is *really* OK.  Gears had an interesting setting to remove some of the hardcore blood and language but it didn't remove "shit" and other adult-speak.  Some games will let you turn off blood which is OK, I guess.

I know developers want to see their "vision" in all it's glory.  That often means graphic sex, gore, language, and so-on.  Forcing them to dumb it down would make for some lame games.

The question is this:

If developers were given a standard system on each console where a "setting" would allow a developer to tone down the sexual content, gore, and language for different levels -- say maybe 4 or 5 levels -- would they do it?

Would a game sell more copies if a parent knew they could control the content?  Are the incremental sales worth the effort to develop alternate animations, dress on characters, voiceovers, etc.?

For example:  There are enough games out there like Fable and Oblivion, for instance, that are just objectionable enough that I won't get it for my young gamer.  With a few tweaks, I would...

Edit: whoops, this should probably have been in the "gaming" forum rather than here in the 360 forum.  Oh well.  Maybe it will play out OK.  If a Mod would take 360 out of the title and move it, that would be cool...



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Some things could be done (additional clothing on "ladies of the night" or elimination of graphic blood and unnecessary violence) but a lot of the reason games get the ratings they do is because of elements you can't remove ... You can't exactly turn Gears of War into Gears of War: Paintball and retain the tone of the game



Yeah, I understand that dumbing down some games basically makes it a different game. GTAIV, for instance, just has to be the way it is. Changing the content too much would be a waste...



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Question: How old is your gamer?

I don't think it will help that much, as the games certificate won't change, I mean, remember when hackers discovered Hot Coffee, and the game was reclassified?



she is 10. I let her play things like halo (M-rated) because there isn't anything overtly sexual and the violence is cartoonish and alien. There really isn't anything in Halo, in my opinion, that requires that it is an M title. Teen would have sufficed on that one. Other games have just a moment or two that make me uncomfortable which makes the rest of the game off limits which is a shame. I control what is watched and played very carefully which some might think is overkill, but I'll relax it a bit when she turns 13.



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kn said:
she is 10. I let her play things like halo (M-rated) because there isn't anything overtly sexual and the violence is cartoonish and alien. There really isn't anything in Halo, in my opinion, that requires that it is an M title. Teen would have sufficed on that one. Other games have just a moment or two that make me uncomfortable which makes the rest of the game off limits which is a shame. I control what is watched and played very carefully which some might think is overkill, but I'll relax it a bit when she turns 13.

 

 First off im glad that you are watching out for your young gamer :)

Secondly I think it would be a decent idea to but I don't think it would be implemented at least in a prevalent manner. I think it would honestly help sell a a few more copies as informed consumers, such as yourself, would look to purchase/allow young gamers to play. While the monetary gains wouldn't be groundbreaking by any means, the implementation of a new system would certainly better the image in the eyes of parents/relatives looking out for their future gamers.

 Edit: Spelling and....how does the Halo series get a mature rating? Im not sure if there is swearing in Halo 3 or not but i remember some in Halo 2 particularly before crossing the bridge on the level "Metropolis"



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I don't agree at all with the Halo 1-3 "M" rating. Giving Halo an M means games like GTAIV should have an "AO". And... how is the COD 2 or 3 less violent or mature than Halo 1 or 2? At least Halo is purple alien blood and is quite unrealistic while COD tries to be realistic while killing actual humans. So COD 2 and 3 get Teen ratings and Halo gets an M. I'm confused. I usually ask, play, or in some way preview the game so I know what I'm getting into. The rating system clearly doesn't work and needs an overhaul.



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