@rocketpig

l would like to see raiden before the constant mind numbing angst he kept repeating in this game.

Is this game still a 10? or close to it?
@Vegabond how would you score the game?

Did you play MGS2? If not, Raiden was actually more tolerable in MGS4.

Yeah, he was pretty bad in MGS2. 

I can already tell that not enough people are dying in MGS4 to make me happy. Even when they do die, there's nothing really tragic about it. It tries to draw on the heartstrings but I'm just not buying. Not enough has gone to shit to really make me feel bad.

Personally, I thought Snake should have fucking capped Naomi as a traitor. I don't care if she was or not, someone as embittered and worn-out as Snake wouldn't have given her the opportunity to do it twice and would have taken care of business the moment he saw her again.

You're right though, this game is starting to feel pretty Michael Bayish and that really bothers me. I may disagree with Kojima's storytelling and style but that doesn't mean he needs to go 100% whore like Bay. I may complain about MGS but it's leagues above anything done by that douchebag.

I only played a little of MGS2 as I loved the first 1 but quickly grew tired of 2.

also about the Game play length play on hard, collect everything possible and play stealthily, this after all how its ment to be played, Personalky im really happy with the game ( it ties up a lot of loose ends, but at the same time leaves it open) BTW did anyone see that cutscene where it scrolls down threw all Previous MGS games until it gets to MGS4, and below that theres 2 slots where it says work in progress ( or something to that effect) . a red herring maybe, after all kojima has been saying this is his last Metal Gear since MGS2

I don't understand what the OP is saying at all.
Act3 is 50% stealth, 25% rail shooter and 25% boss battle
Act4 is 25% stealth/25% action and 50% epic boss battles
act5 is 25% stealth/25% action, 25% boss battle 10% triangle button tapping, and 15% MMA match.

There's as much of "game" in acts 3-5 as 1-2, the main difference is the scale of the maps and the linear level design. the only difference is that there's much more cutscenes. Be that as it may, the cutscenes were in the most part great, Kojima pretty much ties everything up and leaves nothing unanswered when the game ends.

Meh,   90% of my games are games that I didn't paid the full price for I never paid the full price for MGS games I am not saying they are not worth it I just never do that..

Alright, to clarify, I have beaten MGS 1/2 and gotten about half way through MGS3. I am a fan of the series, I just don't feel the need to suck a dick because it's attached to Kojima.

MGS fans are among the most pretentious of all Videogame fans because kojima throws in something that resembles philosophy. It's like talking to those kids in school that listen to really really crappy music and claim you're just stupid because you don't "get it". I get it alright, I'm just not impressed.