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rocketpig said:
Do you guys really think the playtime is down around 6-7 hours? I expect to finish the game around 15 hours and at least 50% of that seems to be play time. It was 80% playtime early in the game and now it seems down around 20% play time... Overall, I think it all averages out to around 50%.

I don't see the point in bashing this game's length. It offers an enjoyable enough experience where I never got too upset about it. Plus, it has MGO if that's your thing.

The documentary that comes with the LE confirms what has been known for a while now; that there is close to 9 hours of cutscenes. If you watched all of them then you've probably amassed only 6 or so hours in playtime. The first two acts are decieving because of their more fleshed out gameplay but Act 3, 4 and 5 contains hours and hours of cutscenes and little to no gameplay.

BTW, if you've already watched the wedding scene then what's keeping you from watching the rest of the epilogue?



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*bleu-ocelot* said:
@OT-You're obviously not a MGS fan,or you would've appreciated everything you mentioned and disliked.I know i did.It sounds like you dread the cutscenes and love the gameplay.Let me direct you to some more brainless,less brain capacity-consuming shooting games.*Points to GeoW and COD4.*

You know, I tried to think of something witty to say in response to this, but I think the fact that this guy apparently considers Metal Gear Solid to be a deep, intellectual experience stands on its own.



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Dude, the last boss fight was BADASS! How could you not like it?

The motorcycle chase was really fun, and well done, but I agree it could have been harder. I liked the cutscenes in Chapter 3 (except for the Mission Briefing), so I didn't have a problem with it.

Dude, did you ever get swarmed by those robots in Chapter 4? They could seriously do some damage. I was playing on the 2nd hardest difficulty, and I felt you HAD to be stealthy in those sections or else it would end up taking you more time, especially in the room with the Geckos. Chapter 4 had a lot of stealth gameplay, so I liked it quite a bit, as well as the best boss fight in the game. I enjoyed being inside the Metal Gear too.

Chapter 5 could have used some more gameplay, but I think it was intended to be relatively short, and I liked how it included cutscenes when you were crawling as Snake through the microwave areas. A nicely done cinematic touch.

You are more than entitled to your own opinion of the game though, as I know Kojima's style isn't right for everyone. The Akiba and Meryl thing did get a little annoying, but at least the fighting in that cutscene was entertaining.



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I think it works out about 50/50 between playing and cut scenes. I am not bashing its length plus I do enjoy MGO.



  

DTG said:
rocketpig said:
Do you guys really think the playtime is down around 6-7 hours? I expect to finish the game around 15 hours and at least 50% of that seems to be play time. It was 80% playtime early in the game and now it seems down around 20% play time... Overall, I think it all averages out to around 50%.

I don't see the point in bashing this game's length. It offers an enjoyable enough experience where I never got too upset about it. Plus, it has MGO if that's your thing.

The documentary that comes with the LE confirms what has been known for a while now; that there is close to 9 hours of cutscenes. If you watched all of them then you've probably amassed only 6 or so hours in playtime. The first two acts are decieving because of their more fleshed out gameplay but Act 3, 4 and 5 contains hours and hours of cutscenes and little to no gameplay.

BTW, if you've already watched the wedding scene then what's keeping you from watching the rest of the epilogue?


I haven't seen the wedding scene yet, just the proposal scene. I'm right at this part:

Snake has shut down GW, was knocked unconcious after the Naomi video, and woke up on the ship with Otacon.

Really though, 9 hours of scenes? Wow, they seemed long but they didn't seem that long. 




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rocketpig said:
DTG said:
rocketpig said:
Do you guys really think the playtime is down around 6-7 hours? I expect to finish the game around 15 hours and at least 50% of that seems to be play time. It was 80% playtime early in the game and now it seems down around 20% play time... Overall, I think it all averages out to around 50%.

I don't see the point in bashing this game's length. It offers an enjoyable enough experience where I never got too upset about it. Plus, it has MGO if that's your thing.

The documentary that comes with the LE confirms what has been known for a while now; that there is close to 9 hours of cutscenes. If you watched all of them then you've probably amassed only 6 or so hours in playtime. The first two acts are decieving because of their more fleshed out gameplay but Act 3, 4 and 5 contains hours and hours of cutscenes and little to no gameplay.

BTW, if you've already watched the wedding scene then what's keeping you from watching the rest of the epilogue?


I haven't seen the wedding scene yet, just the proposal scene. I'm right at this part:

Snake has shut down GW, was knocked unconcious after the Naomi video, and woke up on the ship with Otacon.

Really though, 9 hours of scenes? Wow, they seemed long but they didn't seem that long.

 

I believe the documentary says "over 8 hour of cutscenes". One of the documentaries was pretty nice but the other one really could use dubbing. The tiny captions don't aid comprehension much.

Ah, ok you don't have much left of the game then. Does anyone else find it annoying how Johnny and young Snake look so alike? I see a major plot twist brewing in MGS5...



Yes, I found that bit about Johnny very annoying.

Personally, I think MGS should end with 4 unless they want to do prequels. We saw Snake's story, end it there. That's what we cared about.

It would be like Lucas trying to transition Shia Lebouf into the main role of the Indiana Jones series. Indy dies with Harrison. Let it go. It was a good run, we all had a good time, now go develop a new idea.




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Yeah I thought they looked a like but would prefer the next MGS to be about raiden.



  

dawve24 said:
Yeah I thought they looked a like but would prefer the next MGS to be about raiden.

I would rather play the hairless chimp addicted to caffeine than Raiden.




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rocketpig said:
Yes, I found that bit about Johnny very annoying.

Personally, I think MGS should end with 4 unless they want to do prequels. We saw Snake's story, end it there. That's what we cared about.

It would be like Lucas trying to transition Shia Lebouf into the main role of the Indiana Jones series. Indy dies with Harrison. Let it go. It was a good run, we all had a good time, now go develop a new idea.

 

I agree. Unfortunately the ending is nowhere near as definite as it has been made out to be. MGS5 could easily star Solid Snake again with little to no effort needed from the writers.  I don't even understand why Kojima wouldn't have gone the extra mile to truly end Solid Snakes life story, but the way things ended seemed careless and Hollywood-ish which feels out of place in storyarch as dark as MGS.