Lair!

As for Haze, it doesn't seem to be flopping in sales. I hate it when bad games sell well. :|

The thing about Haze is they probably spent as much on advertising as they did on development. The combination adds up to a lot of money lost most likely. It wouldn't surprise me if the budget was $35-45 million considering how much television advertising they did.

I played Shenmue it's a shame it turned out a big budget disaster, it was a good game.

Shenmue sold a million+ games. Doesn't sound very bad to me.

http://vgchartz.com/games/index.php?name=shenmue&console=&developer=&publisher=&genre=&keyword=&order=Hits


Shenmue 2 on the other hand, well, the Dreamcast was on its way out regardless.

^^Shenmue's budget was 70m. That is a lot of money.
What game today cost that much? Even if it sold a million, they lost a lot of money.

 Yeah, but how much you want to bet all that advertising money was put up by Sony?

Duke Nukem Forever, anyone?

Also, does anyone remember when leo-j claimed that it was impossible for a game with a huge budget to turn out bad? (Talking about Killzone 2.) Wish he could see this thread.

Shenmue....They were developping it for the saturn then they have to cancell it to make it again but then for the DC..

Nneither.  It's a ratio of budget to net income.

Haze and Lair both could hit 500k but that's no where near enough to recoup the budget.

Don't forget Advent Rising for the XBOX. Multimillion dollar disaster! Just goes to show that throwing a ton of money into game development is no guarantee that a quality product is going to come of it.