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starcraft on 11 June 2008
bbsin said:
 

Broaden their bases? If that's the case, then Mass Effect and Bioshock shouldn't be on that list either. ME was funded by Microsoft and Bioshock/Star Ocean was paid for to REMAIN exclusive on the 360 for an undisclosed amount of time. Resistance was funed by Sony and MGS4/FF13 were in all likelyhood paid for to REMAIN exclusive to the PS3. Regardless, you pointed out that Sony is buying all the wrong exclusives, yet you only pointed out the exclusives that has failed. Money Hatting is Money Hatting right? As long as that rule applies, my examples fits yours to a tee.

Fair enough.  Perhaps it would have been better if I'd listed every game assumed to have been moneyhatted by either company.

I'm confident MS would come off looking better. 

 



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Lone_Canis_Lupus on 11 June 2008
Everstar said:
Why would MGS4 not be able to be on 360 just put it on 2 disks?

 Maybe if they dumbed it down to 720p. But to keep it the exact same quality, they would have to do a lot of compressing to get it onto even 3 discs at the least. 



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Lone_Canis_Lupus on 11 June 2008
Munkeh111 said:
@ lone, Uncharted is 1st party, resistance and ratchet are basically 1st party

 Did Naughty Dog go first party? Or were they first party all along? Either way, I feel stupid, lol



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starcraft on 11 June 2008
Lone_Canis_Lupus said:
Everstar said:
Why would MGS4 not be able to be on 360 just put it on 2 disks?

Maybe if they dumbed it down to 720p. But to keep it the exact same quality, they would have to do a lot of compressing to get it onto even 3 discs at the least.

What makes you say that?  They were struggling to keep it on a single-sided blu-ray.  At most I'd think the game would be 30GB.  Knock out 7.1 audio and your down by heaps.  Bring the resolution to 720p (I thought it already was?) and your down even more.

Add in the strong likelihood a lot of compression was skipped for dual-sided BR publicity purposes, and you have a linear game on two disks easily. 

 



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CrazzyMan on 11 June 2008

MGS4 at THIS quality is NOT possible on x360.
1) MGS4 would be UNplayable on x360 models, which don`t have HDD.
2) The game would run in 565p at best case.

How many 50GB taking PS3 games were Ported to x360?
How many PS3 games at all were ported to x360?

Sony DO NOT pay for exclusives, ONLY M$ DO so.



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Pristine20 on 11 June 2008

@ Starcraft

So you realize that Sony is too broke to be paying for exclusives. This is something only an engineer like Kutaragi would do which would explain Heavenly sword and Lair. But Haze when Krazy Ken's gone? Do you think Sony wants to kill their shareholders? M$ has only one major shareholder to answer to and he is billions of dollars away from bankruptcy so they can pay for whatever they want.



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starcraft on 11 June 2008
CrazzyMan said:
MGS4 at THIS quality is NOT possible on x360.
1) MGS4 would be UNplayable on x360 models, which don`t have HDD.
2) The game would run in 565p at best case.

How many 50GB taking PS3 games were Ported to x360?
How many PS3 games at all were ported to x360?

Sony DO NOT pay for exclusives, ONLY M$ DO so.
Joke post?

 



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FJ-Warez on 11 June 2008
Lone_Canis_Lupus said:
Everstar said:
Why would MGS4 not be able to be on 360 just put it on 2 disks?

Maybe if they dumbed it down to 720p. But to keep it the exact same quality, they would have to do a lot of compressing to get it onto even 3 discs at the least.


Would you provide me with a link about the final resolution of the game??? Because the size of the disk is almost no related to the final resolution, and if you try to point to the quality of the textures, both the PS3 ant the 360 had the same amount of ram but the 360 has the edge...

Anyways, since we don´t know the final size of the game, any number of disk beyond 3 is pure speculation...



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starcraft on 11 June 2008
Pristine20 said:
@ Starcraft

So you realize that Sony is too broke to be paying for exclusives. This is something only an engineer like Kutaragi would do which would explain Heavenly sword and Lair. But Haze when Krazy Ken's gone? Do you think Sony wants to kill their shareholders? M$ has only one major shareholder to answer to and he is billions of dollars away from bankruptcy so they can pay for whatever they want.

Haha.  Maybe paying for MGS4 is why Sony gaming devision lost a tonne last quarter.

I was thinking that paying for so many JRPG's probably brought MGD profits down a lot too that quarter. 

 



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psrock on 11 June 2008
CrazzyMan said:
MGS4 at THIS quality is NOT possible on x360.
1) MGS4 would be UNplayable on x360 models, which don`t have HDD.
2) The game would run in 565p at best case.

How many 50GB taking PS3 games were Ported to x360?
How many PS3 games at all were ported to x360?

Sony DO NOT pay for exclusives, ONLY M$ DO so.

they all do, its part of the business, the difference now is MS has more money than Sony, so expect more games espacially in japan to be timed exclusives by Ms.



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