^You have to be kidding me.

actually no, this is what I was told by my philosophy profesor in college. God exists therfore God exists. God cannot be explained away with human language anyway, it is inadequate

Ripper, prove the existence of god without first assuming that god exists.

Edit: Also 'God exists therefore God exists' is not a philisophical proof. Thats like me saying 'Elves exist because elves exist'.

You could say that the being of the universe is proof of God (which I think is what you were implying) but thats like me saying 'A little invisible elf sitting on my head causes it to rain', wheres the proof that the elf exists? Well it rains doesnt it?

What Im trying to get at is that the existence of the universe doesnt imply the existence of god. 

thats the whole point. we are pee-ons God doesn't need us to prove that HE exists, from his point of view the whole thing is preposterous! I mean, an omnipotent God needing a being that he created to prove his existence

I can't prove anything, that is why it is called faith, but I believe once you are 'in' you know. You feel God in your life.

BUT lets stick with logic, what are the consequences if I am wrong? :nothing
If you are wrong: eternal damnation

BUT lets stick with logic, what are the consequences if I am wrong? :nothing
If you are wrong: eternal damnation


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Pascals Wager. And if god is so omnipotent then why do humans have any clue he exists?

God is written with capital letters. SOME humans don't have a clue, you are right!

ripper, If a g-d exists by your logic, how did you find out about it?

Ok Ripper lets assume your correct and God exists, so many different religions say that anybody that doesnt believe in their version of God goes to hell automatically that even if you are right your still going to hell, because Allah or Zeus or Ra said so, thus not believing in God just saves a lot of time.

i don't make the rules rath