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I think the POTENTIAL of the PS3 was good, but people were dwelling more on what the PS3 will be able to do instead of what it was doing at the time or what it is doing now.



Leatherhat on July 6th, 2012 3pm. Vita sales:"3 mil for COD 2 mil for AC. Maybe more. "  thehusbo on July 6th, 2012 5pm. Vita sales:"5 mil for COD 2.2 mil for AC."

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There will be no losers this generation...

Microsoft make a console that sells and makes money

Sony make a console that sells and makes money

Nintendo make a console that SELLS and MAKES MONEY

Win win win!



I hope my 360 doesn't RRoD
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LordTheNightKnight said:
colonelstubbs said:
Didnt Kojima say MGS4 initially wouldnt fit on 1 blu ray disc?

Blu ray disc storage- 50g

dvd storage- 6-7g

this argument is deemed superflous in the light of kojima not wanting the game on the 360....

So what if the game won't come to the 360? You were claiming it couldn't handle it. That was your argument, and I say you have little grounds for it, because even though it would be large on a blu-ray, we don't have proof it would be that big on the 360. 


 MGS4 + MGO couldn´t fit on a Single Layer BR-Disc (25GB) for a few GBs, Sony offered him a Double Layer BR-Disc, he rejected the idea...

 So the game can be made on 3-4 DL- DVD (DVD9), compression can be used on enough data to port the game... 



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playnext3 said:
nintend won this gen before it started lol

 

I don't think so. I think they took a HUGE gamble with no fallback position on a completely unknown control system. It shows their faith in their vision. Of course having a Miyamoto helps.

LordTheNightKnight said:

So what if the game won't come to the 360? You were claiming it couldn't handle it. That was your argument, and I say you have little grounds for it, because even though it would be large on a blu-ray, we don't have proof it would be that big on the 360. 


Software always grows to fill the available space. We're talking about a freaking game not fitting on a 50 GB disk. They managed to get the Apollo Lunar Module landed safely with a computer that had 1K of 16 bit words of erasable (RAM) core memory and 12K of read-only memory (ROM) and the entire landing program was on the 12K ROM.



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psrock said:
darthdevidem01 said:
HOW is GTA IV a lost exclusive

NO GTA has EVER been Exclusive to Playstation..

 

you're kidding right? I guess you dont understand the advantage of time exclusives, the ps2 enjoyed it tons.

 Really? No one is going to call him on this? What are you son, 12? Every Grand Theft Auto after II that doesnt have "Stories" on the end of the title has come out on a Microsoft System.

 

Its called Timed exclusive, not exclusive. 

 

OT: I wish I could live in a world where a system can outsell its closest (in technology) rival for over a half year worldwide, increase its year over year sales in the 300-400% range and call it a failure. I guess in 2 years we will all read your thread about how it was a success since first written down on a napkin at the local sushi mart by the Sony R&D guys. 



I own all three current consoles and a great gaming rig, now thats out of the way.

This space Reserved for the Nuggets of Wisdom dropped by Bladeforce:

"Why post something like this when all it will get is PS3 owners blinded to reality replying? BOTH THE PS3 AND BLUE-RAY WILL NOT LAST 3 YEARS! TECHNOLOGY CHANGED TOO FAST!"

"is it Wii FIt that has sold as many as PS3's sold? Thats a LOL Look at the total sales of software is it just me that sees Nintendo titles hitting 10m+ and you say they arent making a difference? Another LOL!"

"Hell, with all the negative hype Sony spin, people just aren't interested cost is too high and to get the true HD experience (1080p, 7.1 surround) you will need a $1000+ system. THAT IS GOING TO DO IT IN A RECESSION! PS4 will not happen"

Grampy said:
LordTheNightKnight said:

So what if the game won't come to the 360? You were claiming it couldn't handle it. That was your argument, and I say you have little grounds for it, because even though it would be large on a blu-ray, we don't have proof it would be that big on the 360. 


Software always grows to fill the available space. We're talking about a freaking game not fitting on a 50 GB disk. They managed to get the Apollo Lunar Module landed safely with a computer that had 1K of 16 bit words of erasable (RAM) core memory and 12K of read-only memory (ROM) and the entire landing program was on the 12K ROM.


 No, we arent, we are talking about two games MGO and MGS4 not fitting on a 25 GB disk...



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Both HD consoles are losing in sales to the Wii.

But what I don't see happening, is what all Wii fans have been saying that was going to happen - Third parties would completely ditch HD consoles and only develop for the Wii. We are now 1.5 years into the generation with pure Nintendomination, and games like SF4 are still being announced for HD consoles. The only big defection so far was Fatal Frame and Monster Hunter that I've seen go from HD to non-HD. With multiplat support of games on PS3 and 360, "hardcore" gaming is actually doing better than last generation. If there isn't a mass defection at E3 or TGS this year, I think it's saying that the major projects of third parties will still be on PS360. Why? Fanboys look only at total hardware sales while game developers / publishers partition the install base and look at how well software sells.

I'm probably going to be posting much less often because the "console war" has already been decided. Wii is getting all the sales, but the PS3, 360, and PC entertain me on orders of magnitude more than the Wii. This is coming from someone who has been hardcore supporter of the Nintendo consoles from NES to Gamecube.



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LordTheNightKnight said:
colonelstubbs said:
"All things considered, I'm pretty sure it's already a done deal, given the fact that we hear very credible rumors about it once a week or so."

If one more person posts something about MGS4 appearing on the 360...

IT

CANT

HANDLE

IT

How many more times!?



DISC

SIZE

ONLY

MEANS

MORE

DISCS


 Not so simple.  Works well for Linear games like jRPGs.  However, the developers of GTA have been saying that there is going to need to be a solution (like HDD install).  Can't just change discs everytime you go to a different area.



"Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, IT IS THE LEADERS of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. IT WORKS THE SAME IN ANY COUNTRY."  --Hermann Goering, leading Nazi party member, at the Nuremberg War Crime Trials 

 

Conservatives:  Pushing for a small enough government to be a guest in your living room, or even better - your uterus.

 

I knew that it would give the 360 a good fight and i believe that it will still beat it but Ninny came out of left feild tho