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MontanaHatchet said:
Str8knox said:
This was just a question, many people on the site have super high predictions for Mgs4.

Some people (bless their hearts) are willing to completely ignore past sales data and trends just because they're so enveloped in the hype of their game. Frankly, if you form a question everytime you heard an opinion from someone on this site, than you're going to have pretty dumb questions.


 Actually as I pointed out above past sales data would actually contradict the point you are trying to make here.



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DTG said:
MontanaHatchet said:
colonelstubbs said:
This cant be a serious question....can it?

The wii has DOUBLE the hardware base of the PS3

Brawl will trounce it

Thats not to say MGS4 wont be a big hit but...you could have picked a more reasonable opponent

Brawl would trounce it regardless of userbase.

The Smash Bros series just has way more appeal in America and Japan than Metal Gear Solid will ever have.

 


 

Though ironically MGS1 outside SSB and MGS2 outsold SSBM each by about a million.

The Konami hype machine can do wonders and is much more powerful than the hype Nintendo builds for their games. MGS4's budget has already surpassed 80 million, it would be expected that they will push this game VERY heavily.


 I'm looking at Vgchartz's figures and they say differently.

The Metal Gear series has actually been decreasing in popularity (although it could be boosted by its latest iteration) whereas the Smash Bros series has been rising with each new title released. 



 

 

the simple fact is, the wii is selling, the wiis games are selling, mario is selling....

MGS4 im hoping will have spectacular sales. Im hoping every single PS3 owner buys it. Im hoping it smashes sales records everywhere on Earth.

However, realistically, 5 million sales are the limit.

Brawl wins



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Str8knox said:
Eh, Dtg, doesn't that seem on a console with a less than 20 mil userbase at the moment a little optimistically, compared with the predecessors on 2 consoles that reached 100mil?

Yes, but Montana said;

 "Brawl would trounce it regardless of userbase."

I simply presented an example where that statement doesn't hold true. 



Wow, this is so obvious it's not even worth discussing.

Obviously, Metal Gear Solid 4.



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MontanaHatchet said:
DTG said:
MontanaHatchet said:
colonelstubbs said:
This cant be a serious question....can it?

The wii has DOUBLE the hardware base of the PS3

Brawl will trounce it

Thats not to say MGS4 wont be a big hit but...you could have picked a more reasonable opponent

Brawl would trounce it regardless of userbase.

The Smash Bros series just has way more appeal in America and Japan than Metal Gear Solid will ever have.

 


 

Though ironically MGS1 outside SSB and MGS2 outsold SSBM each by about a million.

The Konami hype machine can do wonders and is much more powerful than the hype Nintendo builds for their games. MGS4's budget has already surpassed 80 million, it would be expected that they will push this game VERY heavily.


I'm looking at Vgchartz's figures and they say differently.

The Metal Gear series has actually been decreasing in popularity (although it could be boosted by its latest iteration) whereas the Smash Bros series has been rising with each new title released.


 VGchartz has incorrect sales data on MGS. Every major source including publications and Konami themselves has MGS1 at 6+ million and MGS2 at 7+ million,.



Sorry Montana. It was just a thought that came into my head after many predicted Mgs4 to break 2.4 mil 1st week.
Dtg, Melee ousoldw Mgs2, if I recall, by about a couple hundred thousand. (400k max.)



Dtg, do you have the right data? I read somewhere that Mgs had 7 mil while Mgs2 had 6 mil not 7 mil.


Aj, are you serious or just playing? (i suck at sarcasm if it's not spoken.)



DTG said:
MontanaHatchet said:
DTG said:
MontanaHatchet said:
colonelstubbs said:
This cant be a serious question....can it?

The wii has DOUBLE the hardware base of the PS3

Brawl will trounce it

Thats not to say MGS4 wont be a big hit but...you could have picked a more reasonable opponent

Brawl would trounce it regardless of userbase.

The Smash Bros series just has way more appeal in America and Japan than Metal Gear Solid will ever have.

 


 

Though ironically MGS1 outside SSB and MGS2 outsold SSBM each by about a million.

The Konami hype machine can do wonders and is much more powerful than the hype Nintendo builds for their games. MGS4's budget has already surpassed 80 million, it would be expected that they will push this game VERY heavily.


I'm looking at Vgchartz's figures and they say differently.

The Metal Gear series has actually been decreasing in popularity (although it could be boosted by its latest iteration) whereas the Smash Bros series has been rising with each new title released.


 VGchartz has incorrect sales data on MGS. Every major source including publications and Konami themselves has MGS1 at 6+ million and MGS2 at 7+ million,.


Every Smash game has had a way better attach rate than every MGS game, point blank. The original sold nearly the same as MGS (I think those sales you're referring to include the PC version) and Melee sold better than 2 or 3  on a much smaller install base and the MGS titles had multiple ps2 versions and were released for multiple platforms. Smash games are growing in popularity and MG games are shrinking(though I think MGS4 has potential to eclipse it's predecessors).

When you take that into account, with the install base of the PS3 and the Wii, it doesn't even seem debatable. Just look how quickly Brawl has sold, compared to Melee and what the attach rate would have to be MGS4 to surpass it.



Brawl, no doubt about it.



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