Starmistkarmic said: @vaio Michigan and Florida don't count because they broke the Democratic Party's rules and moved their election dates ahead of when they were scheduled without getting the Party's okay and pissing off the other 48 states. I can see MI's point because it's one of the hardest hit states in terms of the economy. The Dem's felt they had to take action to avoid other states from moving up their elections in the future and causing chaos(everyone will want to be first). The Republicans also penalized MI and FL(though not as severe). In the end, because it was such a close primary, MI and FL ended up shooting themselves in the foot because had they retained their original election dates, their votes would have had alot more weight. Ironic. OT: Hillary Clinton is the only person who thinks Hillary Clinton can win. At this point her campaign is primarily being powered by her gigantic ego. We just had 7+ years of a president who says dumb shit and embarrasses the US. We don't need another.

The really obnoxious thing is that Hillary AGREED to the penalty.  She had no problem with it when she was ahead and looked like a shoo in to win the nomination.

Now that she's lost, she takes the low road and starts talking about how wrong it is and how every voice should be heard, yada yada.  She should just be honest and say what she thinks.  That every voice that supports her should be heard.

NintendoTogepi said: "Responding to those who had called on her to withdraw from the Democratic Party's presidential race, Mrs Clinton said: "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June... We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it."" (photo removed to ease my digestion) Why would she say that? Is she saying that Barack Obama is going to be assassinated? Is she going to send her secret Clinton death assassins to get him? Crazy.

Nothing so bloody: Bill is sending his special forces to do "improper sex" with Obama and post a video of it on Youtube  

Bursche said: damkira said: Hillary Clinton will say anything to stay in the news.. This is really now the only way she can get attention now that Obama has pretty much won the primaries.   In all actuallity, the election is even. If you take into account that Obama will probably not make it to the 2026 delegates needed, unless he sweeps the last 3 primaries. But even more so, Democrats have really screwed themselves over as the race for their nomination would actually be really cut down to the wire if Michigan and Florida were counted, both won by Hillary. I think the Democratic candidate will not be known until the convention, as for the first time in a long while the candidate will be picked in a smoke filled room. But either way they choose, they're screwed as half of the Democrats will be pissed their candidate did not win. The only way to reconsile this, is to have both as Presdent and VP, but then they will be attacked by Republicans and McCain showing all of the mudslinging footage of both Obama and Clinton slamming each other.

There is little to no chance that Michigan and Florida will be counted, because the Democratic National Committee stripped them of their delegates because both had primaries that were too early.  Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan. He's 57 delegates away from the nomination, with Puerto Rico, South Dakota and Montana left. He's already leading Clinton in the superdelegate count and should be able to declare victory quite soon.

 

Yeah, Hillary wants FL and MI to be counted because she outright won them since Obama didn't even campaign in florida, and wasn't on the ballot at all in michigan. She's such a disgusting politician it's not even funny, and the OP comment shows just how low she can sink.

NintendoTogepi said: "Responding to those who had called on her to withdraw from the Democratic Party's presidential race, Mrs Clinton said: "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June... We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it."" Why would she say that? Is she saying that Barack Obama is going to be assassinated? Is she going to send her secret Clinton death assassins to get him? Crazy.

 Ok, I'm curious as to how you figured out that she is going to assassinate Obama. I am certainly no fan of Clinton, but saying that she is going to assassinate Obama based on the fact that she referred to Kennedy being assassinated in June is totally ridiculous.

vaio said: Starmistkarmic said: @vaio Michigan and Florida don't count because they broke the Democratic Party's rules and moved their election dates ahead of when they were scheduled without getting the Party's okay and pissing off the other 48 states. I can see MI's point because it's one of the hardest hit states in terms of the economy. The Dem's felt they had to take action to avoid other states from moving up their elections in the future and causing chaos(everyone will want to be first). The Republicans also penalized MI and FL(though not as severe). In the end, because it was such a close primary, MI and FL ended up shooting themselves in the foot because had they retained their original election dates, their votes would have had alot more weight. Ironic. OT: Hillary Clinton is the only person who thinks Hillary Clinton can win. At this point her campaign is primarily being powered by her gigantic ego. We just had 7+ years of a president who says dumb shit and embarrasses the US. We don't need another. Thank you. If there was no cheating or anything else iffy about the elections I think it´s stupid not to count them it sends the message that the people in those states arent as important as the others.

Hard to say.  Only other way they could change it is to have a bunch of primaries on the same day, like super tuesday, however this system really hurts the poorer polticians and gives a stronger advantage to the richer ones who can spend more money.

So until campaigns are government funded... 

Besides.  I'd say that the fact that Califonia is worth more then Rhode Island in delegates sends the message that some states aren't as important as others... cause honestly, they aren't. 

Obama is going to have a hard time winning over the heartland states (the ones that were big in helping Bush win) after he said that those people need to let go of their bibles and their guns or some such bullsh**. It even inspired one car dealership to start giving away guns to people that bought a car from him, and his sales jumped big time.
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN2249853620080523

cwbys21 said: Obama is going to have a hard time winning over the heartland states (the ones that were big in helping Bush win) after he said that those people need to let go of their bibles and their guns or some such bullsh**. It even inspired one car dealership to start giving away guns to people that bought a car from him, and his sales jumped big time. http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSN2249853620080523

 Wow, I hadn't heard about that. That is a great tactic and idea for sales! What a marketing campaign, all based on the gaff that is Obama.

I found that on Google today, at the top of page for Google's mail service they have news and that one caught my eye, pretty funny.

insomniac17 said: NintendoTogepi said: "Responding to those who had called on her to withdraw from the Democratic Party's presidential race, Mrs Clinton said: "My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June... We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don't understand it."" Why would she say that? Is she saying that Barack Obama is going to be assassinated? Is she going to send her secret Clinton death assassins to get him? Crazy. Ok, I'm curious as to how you figured out that she is going to assassinate Obama.

 

Well, she could easily do it without weapons or poison, simply showing herself naked to him : stone-dead with fright, like Harrison Ford in "What lies beneath" second to last scene!  ...Sometimes I wonder how Bill manages to be still alive... Wait, didn't he risk an heart attack and was forced to have a coronary bypass a few years ago?