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sc94597 on 19 May 2008
Daddo Splat said:
sieanr said:

Loud_Hot_White_Box said:I'm pretty sure if movies or games get "cracked" the standard can be changed and firmware updated to lock it the PS3 down again. Not sur, though.

I still say Sony should brick all modded PSPs just before a new model with more features comes out. Force some repurchases.

BR has been cracked to hell and back, and its been like that for ages. They can change keys now, but it'd be useless.

If Sony were to intentionally try to brick modded PSPs, then they'd be in for tons of lawsuits and bad press, wether or not its well founded. But even then it wouldn't do anything since Pandoras battery can recover a bricked PSP. Oh, and thats if you could trick modded PSP owners to upgrade to a firmware that bricks handhelds in the first place.


All I want to say is both of your post are correct and Intelligent I like the trick the modded psp user to upgrade his firmware and get bricked. If you modded it you probably wouldnt want to update.

Thats were sony in the future could use an auto update when a game pops in you cant play it unless you update! that might keep people from modding maybe.

Also I have a customer with a 200 MB original xbox loaded with all the original nintendo games tv shows porn a ton on MP3s

and quite a few original xbox games its amazing what modding can do!

If you have a modded psp, why would you play real games. Wouldn't just pirate them.

 



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iron_megalith on 19 May 2008

Time will tell. ATM blu-ray is god awful expensive to be pirated.



senatorpjt on 19 May 2008

In theory if there were a modchip you'd be able to run games off an external USB drive or at least expand the HD, you could fit 12x25GB games on the 320GB drive in my PS3. 500GB external USB drives aren't that expensive either ($80 for a 500GB HD, $100 with enclosure)



sieanr on 19 May 2008
Daddo Splat said:
sieanr said:

Loud_Hot_White_Box said:I'm pretty sure if movies or games get "cracked" the standard can be changed and firmware updated to lock it the PS3 down again.  Not sur, though.

I still say Sony should brick all modded PSPs just before a new model with more features comes out.  Force some repurchases.

BR has been cracked to hell and back, and its been like that for ages. They can change keys now, but it'd be useless.

If Sony were to intentionally try to brick modded PSPs, then they'd be in for tons of lawsuits and bad press, wether or not its well founded. But even then it wouldn't do anything since Pandoras battery can recover a bricked PSP. Oh, and thats if you could trick modded PSP owners to upgrade to a firmware that bricks handhelds in the first place.


All I want to say is both of your post are correct and Intelligent I like the trick the modded psp user to upgrade his firmware and get bricked. If you modded it you probably wouldnt want to update.

Thats were sony in the future could use an auto update when a game pops in you cant play it unless you update! that might keep people from modding maybe.

Also I have a customer with a 200 MB original xbox loaded with all the original nintendo games tv shows porn a ton on MP3s

and quite a few original xbox games its amazing what modding can do!


 Haha, thats what they've been trying for ages. At this point ther are several ways to get around this - play a ripped version of the game, custom firmware, firmware loader, and I believe that there may be a firmware spoofer as well.



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bbsin on 20 May 2008

Did Sony dodge piracy? not completely and only for now, downloading 20-30gb PS3 games and using BluRay disks/burners are both a pain in the ass and expensive to do. With that being said, there will never be such thing as "dodging piracy", it'll only be a matter of time before the PS3 is completely exposed. But as of right now, hackers don't have much of an incentive since there is very little profit in selling PS3 modchips. The biggest reason for hackers to even bother with the PS3 at the moment is to mess around with the RSX and linux (and ofcourse bragging rights).



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Magnific0 on 20 May 2008

for now the PS3 stands as the console that has gone longer without being pirated since the cartridge era.



Kasz216 on 20 May 2008

If by dodged piracy you mean the PS3 is so unpopular few people have even bothered to attempt it.... yeah the PS3 has dodged piracy in the same way apple dodges piracy.

Once it starts selling better and people care... piracy will occur.



Kasz216 on 20 May 2008
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
sc94597 said:
First of all before talking about mod chips and such,I'm going to talk about Blu-Ray. THe blu-ray I believe now goes up to 50gb and possibly more. Most games won't go that large, but anythng over 10gb is too much for the average download speed. Then how many people have blu-ray burners? Not too many. They would either have to put their pirated games on dvds or a hdd(they bet have a terrabyte or ten of them ready) but is a dvd possible for games not meant to be on multiple discs? I would hate to be someone downloading 50GBs especially using torrents, and this might not be the limit. The blu-ray disc will get bigger and so will games. I think there is one ps3 mod chip out compared to the tons the 360 and wii have. So did sony dodge piracy this gen on the ps3? or will the pirates catch up with them?

Though, to point out, the BD drive in PS3 only reads to 2 layers, so that's 50gb max. Subsequent versions could read discs with more layers, but games will not come out with more than 2 layers.

I'm pretty sure if movies or games get "cracked" the standard can be changed and firmware updated to lock it the PS3 down again. Not sur, though.

I still say Sony should brick all modded PSPs just before a new model with more features comes out. Force some repurchases.


If they did that the backlash Sony would get would be ENORMOUS and they would likely have to pull a publicity stunt to "make things right" despite the fact that it would mostly effect people who are pirating.



twesterm on 20 May 2008
Kasz216 said:
Loud_Hot_White_Box said:
sc94597 said:
First of all before talking about mod chips and such,I'm going to talk about Blu-Ray. THe blu-ray I believe now goes up to 50gb and possibly more. Most games won't go that large, but anythng over 10gb is too much for the average download speed. Then how many people have blu-ray burners? Not too many. They would either have to put their pirated games on dvds or a hdd(they bet have a terrabyte or ten of them ready) but is a dvd possible for games not meant to be on multiple discs? I would hate to be someone downloading 50GBs especially using torrents, and this might not be the limit. The blu-ray disc will get bigger and so will games. I think there is one ps3 mod chip out compared to the tons the 360 and wii have. So did sony dodge piracy this gen on the ps3? or will the pirates catch up with them?

Though, to point out, the BD drive in PS3 only reads to 2 layers, so that's 50gb max. Subsequent versions could read discs with more layers, but games will not come out with more than 2 layers.

I'm pretty sure if movies or games get "cracked" the standard can be changed and firmware updated to lock it the PS3 down again. Not sur, though.

I still say Sony should brick all modded PSPs just before a new model with more features comes out. Force some repurchases.


If they did that the backlash Sony would get would be ENORMOUS and they would likely have to pull a publicity stunt to "make things right" despite the fact that it would mostly effect people who are pirating.


 Like the outraged people are the ones that buy the games anyways.  :-p



 

Pk9394 on 20 May 2008

cartridge era get pirated too -.-
but you need an attachment machine for it, it cost like $200-400 dollars back in the SNES and Genesis days. That thing rip out rom image from the cartridge and save it on a floppy disk.

 

my two cents: No machine is hacker proof, its a matter of incentives to hack a certain machine.  at this point prices is the main concern that keeping chip makers to make a mod chip for the ps3, as others had posted the price of burner and blank disc is still out of reach to these chip buyer.