TheRealMafoo said: I am coming in late to this argument, but the real winer this generations, is Gamers. You used to need a 2000+ PC to play PC games. Now you can make a $500 PC Winner: Gamer. The Wii has a radically new game play style. Winner: Gamer. The PS3 has the best visuals ever seen for $400. Winner: Gamer. The 360 has the best online play ever seen for $350. Winner: Gamer.

Yes. But OT, SSJ12 is trying to belittle console gamers and I think I layed it down pretty thick. :)

SSJ12 is a mean, mean man!

ssj12 said: Foshoryuken said: ssj12 said: Foshoryuken said: ssj12 said: Foshoryuken said: ssj12 said: after rereading this thread I can smell epic win here Your not talking about you winning, obviously. you are correct, I am talking about total domination! Ok. Woah. What has gotten into you recently? lol (Stop taking meds?) :) /joke If you weren't such a PC fanboy maybe most of us would take you serious. Only a handful of people who own PC's use it for gaming. You, SSJ12 are in the minority. But you can always have your opinion. minority? 15+million steam users, 12 million Sims 2 players, 10 million WoW players, at least, 15 million other MMO players, 700,000 Battefield players, over 30 million online FPS gamers, and million upon millions upon millions of other gamers playing other genres and indie titles. I will straight up say the minority is the console gamers. Remember which type of gaming has the league that is close to being as big as the NFL? Thats right it is PC GAMING. Show me concrete numbers of acual gaming sales please. Not some numbers you just pulled out of your ass to try and prove, "PC domination". I'm willing to bet atleast 75% of those WoW are playing games other than WoW. 30 million online FPS user? That number is saturated, because those "30 million" users, could have anywhere in between 1-10 different FPS games. Set your fanboyism aside for a minute, god damn. If you want to talk about gaming Software sales Nintendo DS is pissing on PC as we speak. *drip drip* As far as casual games Nintendo wii is dominating Sims. Wii fit will be the final nail in the coffin. LMFAO did you just say battlefield 700,000 user's? Hanna Montanna for Nintendo DS is laughing at you. :) P.S. Props to SSJ12 for fighting till the very end. Current user, the franchise has sold over 14 million copies. The game has basically been abandoned now. Shio has the full sales. He had it the last time me and him double teamed PC game sales. But you could ask the creator of AudioSurf how it is to be rolling around with millions of dollars. Or Popcap how it is being the king of casual gaming. Do you even understand that even if WiiFit sells 100 million units, Popcap has sold way more casual games?

If you want to make this ALL PC gaming vs. ALL console gaming, I tell you now that console gaming wins, if you take out the games that pack in with the OSes. 

Every person who still plays StarCraft?  Counted.  Every person who still plays his original Playstation?  Counted.  Handhelds?  Counted.  Cell phones don't count either way. 

I'm going to start utterly making up numbers now.    80 million pre-last-gen consoles.  (That counts PS1, Game Boy, those freaky Genesis ripoffs in South America, etc. etc.  I am very much lowballing this, IMO.)  80 million PS2s.  10 million Xboxes, 10 million Gamecubes.  (No Dreamcasts )  50 million GBAs.  26+19+13+72+34=164.  Total guess:  394 million consoles having games played on them.  I will very generously knock this down to 300 million for people with two or more consoles. 

How many PCs are used for gaming?  Gaming other than Minesweeper, Solitaire, Freecell and any other game that is preinstalled on whatever OS people may be using?  Is it a number to make 300 million look like "total domination"?  Or perhaps you disagree with my numbers.  I don't complain too much if you do, since they are one-half bullshit meets one-half utter speculation.  But what is YOUR estimate, and how did you arrive at it? 

i'm sorry ssj12, but before i go to bed i need to say this:

PC gaming used to be big, it used to showcase graphics and fps, but things have changed, consoles have stolen pc's thunder. It may have some great jam left, but its a dying genre believe it or not. Consoles is where its at now. Blame wiifit.

and most of the best pc games will also be on consoles.

Foshoryuken said: TheRealMafoo said: I am coming in late to this argument, but the real winer this generations, is Gamers. You used to need a 2000+ PC to play PC games. Now you can make a $500 PC Winner: Gamer. The Wii has a radically new game play style. Winner: Gamer. The PS3 has the best visuals ever seen for $400. Winner: Gamer. The 360 has the best online play ever seen for $350. Winner: Gamer. Yes. But OT, SSJ12 is trying to belittle console gamers and I think I layed it down pretty thick. :) SSJ12 is a mean, mean man!

 Well he has a point. I mean GTAIV, SSBB, MK, MGS4, SMG, and Halo3 all look better on the PC ;)

For me it's all about the games, and not the device your playing them on. For almost all cross platform games that are also on the PC, the PC wins. But if you only play the PC, you are missing out on the majority of great games out there. 

TheRealMafoo said: Foshoryuken said: TheRealMafoo said: I am coming in late to this argument, but the real winer this generations, is Gamers. You used to need a 2000+ PC to play PC games. Now you can make a $500 PC Winner: Gamer. The Wii has a radically new game play style. Winner: Gamer. The PS3 has the best visuals ever seen for $400. Winner: Gamer. The 360 has the best online play ever seen for $350. Winner: Gamer. Yes. But OT, SSJ12 is trying to belittle console gamers and I think I layed it down pretty thick. :) SSJ12 is a mean, mean man!  Well he has a point. I mean GTAIV, SSBB, MK, MGS4, SMG, and Halo3 all look better on the PC ;) For me it's all about the games, and not the device your playing them on. For almost all cross platform games that are also on the PC, the PC wins. But if you only play the PC, you are missing out on the majority of great games out there.

 games like these http://www.bestgameever.com/

SSJ12 what game are you talking about?

Travis Must die?

Wingman?

Loops Hoops?

Like I said, I googled Auidiosurf and only 800k results showed.

That doesn't seem like that popular of a game to me.
Hence, why I never heard of it.

if PC games are always better, like in your Sig, why do you own a PS3, or any PS3 games?

PC has also outsold the ps2 since 2000, so it is the real winner of gaming so Ps2 isn't the winner of gaming genearation but the PC!!!

if the majority of people could use the PC just for gaming, companies could never be bothered to release consoles!

Leni said: PC has also outsold the ps2 since 2000, so it is the real winner of gaming so Ps2 isn't the winner of gaming genearation but the PC!!! if the majority of people could use the PC just for gaming, companies could never be bothered to release consoles!

 Cell phones have outsold every console, and all PC's combined, and they all play games. So the winner last generation, and this generation, is the Cell Phone.

Ok, now that we have that solved, I am going to bed :p 

TheRealMafoo said: Leni said: PC has also outsold the ps2 since 2000, so it is the real winner of gaming so Ps2 isn't the winner of gaming genearation but the PC!!! if the majority of people could use the PC just for gaming, companies could never be bothered to release consoles!  Cell phones have outsold every console, and all PC's combined, and they all play games. So the winner last generation, and this generation, is the Cell Phone. Ok, now that we have that solved, I am going to bed :p

God damn! You are so right.

 

CELL PHONE DOMINATION.

I'm gonna put that in my sig.

Anyways.

Nice try SSJ12. Maybe next time. :)