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DMeisterJ said:
naznatips said:
DMeisterJ said:
naznatips said:
I think you are underestimating how tame ioi has been with this. He is well within the site rules to permaban anyone who has recruited for an off-site forum through this site. Obviously most members of section 8 weren't involved in the actual PMing of members, but he's trying to find a way to accommodate you despite a direct violation of a very serious forum rule.

My god.

You act like we all stopped posting on VGC.

Did that happen?


No one is accusing you of that, but it's still a use of this site to recruit members for another site. Would you disagree with that?


Recruit?

You act as if we were all like "'F' VG Chartz, the site sucks, etc" where we all still use and like the site. You make us seem like a cult, and you're sensationalizing.


Well, although it's not really the point, many of those posts were very aggressive and insulting towards VGChartz.  While I agree ioi's method of obtaining them may have been a bit unfair, the fact remains that there were people calling this site a "test" to prove worth for the other site.  Obviously this sentiment isn't shared by everyone, but surely you can see how ioi would be insulted by that.  Especially when it was made right after doing everything we asked him to do to set up these forums. 

Anyway, that's again not really the point of having a rule against advertising or recruiting for other sites.   Many people have been perma-banned by myself for advertising for their sales websites.  Surely those don't take posts away from VGC.  Do you think that was wrong? You have no right to use ioi's hard work to recruit for a project of your own.

@Elduderino Ben is actually trying to spread information about the game in the same way that I do with my video game previews, but I agree that it could be borderline problematic.   



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@ naz

Many?

Quote them bad boys. Please.



ssj12 said:
makingmusic476 said:
DMeisterJ said:
naznatips said:
I think you are underestimating how tame ioi has been with this. He is well within the site rules to permaban anyone who has recruited for an off-site forum through this site. Obviously most members of section 8 weren't involved in the actual PMing of members, but he's trying to find a way to accommodate you despite a direct violation of a very serious forum rule.

My god.

You act like we all stopped posting on VGC.

Did that happen?


I agree with Naz.  Advertising an external site on any forum is grounds for expulsion. 

However, you are correct in that we weren't taking away posts from VGChartz.  I've still been posting 10+ times a day, with only a slight lull around finals.

 


 not totally true, most sites allow advertising in sigs. If you start a thread about some random competing site telling people to join, then thats grounds to ban the prick.


 Well, I meant threads more than sigs.  Sigs are more a sign of support than anything.  Like a bumper sticker.

Though I'm not sure where PMs would come in all of this.



This is going nowhere.

Guys what ioi wants is sec8 to be here, i hope you guys can work out a compromise on how much control he would allow, but i feel it's good we are discussing it, but it derailing somehow.



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11/20/09 04:25 makingmusic476 Warning Other (Your avatar is borderline NSFW. Please keep it for as long as possible.)

Nothing is being discussed, we're being threatened.

Basically it's [Tell me what's going on on this site, or you're banned].

He has 'no other course but to take action' (Paraphrased), because he doesn't know what happens on Section 8.1.

It's not a discussion, it's an interrogation. We're the perps, and he is the police. He's giving no information, and we're spilling our guts, nothing is being accomplished, except for the fact that ioi has some preconceived notions about our site, and instead of talking about it, is telling us what we're doing.



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ioi said:
@DMeisterJ - I was referring to the "you make us seem like a cult" comment and said that yes that is how you are coming across at the moment. On a side note, your attitude is getting a little heated so lets tone it down.

I don't have to answer but if you recruit someone to your forum and they decide to show me what was posted then it is 100% their right to do so. There are no rules saying they cannot show anybody else. Again, if you've nothing to hide then what is the issue? (DMJ is just mad someone abused the trust he/she was given... I don´t care and since you know about everything that was going on in sec8 there is nothing to hide and no issue)

You have no right to use ioi's hard work to recruit for a project of your own.


Absolutely. (Sec8 was hardly a private project, no more than a chat is... no one was going to make money with it or steal your members... making it look that way is quite unfair.)


 



 

 

 

DMeisterJ said:
@ naz

Many?

Quote them bad boys. Please.

VGC Sec 8 = dupe account.

We could use it to test out some mem to see if there worthy of the reasl sec 8. We tell them about the VGC then if we like them enough we let them into the real thing.

I really like the section 8 sigs tho, I kind of wanted to see what people reaction were gonna be.
but VGC section 8 makes great diversion for the real one.

and now it will be gone.

Soriku just joined. lol.

"I missed all of this, so the VG section 8 members will not be informed of this one?"

Definitely not. We've gone back into hiding...lol.

I'm aware that some of these may have been made by the same insulting person, but surely you can see how these would be insulting to ioi who had done whatever he could to make a space for you guys.



ioi said:

I'll have no choice but to remove you from vgchartz to prevent you from trying to take more people over and prevent you from growing larger and taking control away from vgchartz. You are already trying to threaten me and tell me that I am powerless now - proving my point.

I have to protect my site guys and I can't really believe it is what any of you want.


It doesnt have to go that far ioi, before any decision are made , please talked it over with Ken, he will help fix this.



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11/20/09 04:25 makingmusic476 Warning Other (Your avatar is borderline NSFW. Please keep it for as long as possible.)

How are any of those talking about VGC badly?

I said the same Soriku thing directly in the "Who is in Section 8" thread in this forum.
Was that talking bad about VGC? And he put an 'lol' after it.

I don't get how the top 2 are insulting VGC either. This Section 8 is too "open", and anyone with >750 posts is welcome. Would we want leo-j here? I see nothing wrong with those posts.



PDF said:
@ioi - what happens if we keep s8 going. What then? What will your action be?

This is the very definition of making things worse.  Shaking a stick and saying "try me" hardly helps things.  If you have no interest in resolving this peacefully then please don't continue this discussion.